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hello ryan thank you for inviting me to

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share my story

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my name is ashley i'm 34 years old and i

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currently live in ontario canada when

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this event took place in 1997

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i was 11 years old and i lived with my

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family

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in hamilton uh one night i went to the

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corner store and as i stood at the

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crosswalk waiting for the light to

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change

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i looked up at the sky i noticed

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that the sky was totally black and that

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there weren't any stars

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when i looked all the way up that's when

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i saw

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these lights that immediately

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registered as being a natural

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there were about five or six of them

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they were stationary

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a little bit bigger than stars often

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color like a soft orange

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and they formed a very large half circle

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my best guess would be that i

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would be able to place my adult hand

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between

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each of these lights i had no idea what

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it was

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all i knew was that the longer i looked

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at it the more terrified i felt so i ran

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across the street into the store

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and wandered around until i felt

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comfortable enough to leave

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i couldn't have been more than five

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minutes

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when i left and crossed the street i

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made a point of stopping where i saw the

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lights and looking up

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but the lights were gone my mom

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doesn't ever recall talking to me about

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it and

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i guess i just forgot about it for a

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while

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i'd always been into ghosts and the

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paranormal when i was a kid

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and any idea i had on ufos at the time

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was based off of

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the odd story in a book that i could

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take out from the school library or

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watching the x-files with my parents

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that's until the internet came along and

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then i had

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even more access to information to

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expand my interests

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so one day in 2000 2001 i was bored and

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started searching for

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ufo photos and i found this website

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about the famous phoenix light sighting

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that took place in 1997

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and when i got to the photos

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i just remember

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getting chills because those photographs

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showed the exact same thing

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that i saw a few years prior

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and i remember just sitting there

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thinking about it like

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what are the odds that at 11 years old

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with

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no knowledge that the event in phoenix

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took place

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would i experience the same thing a

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couple of months later

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i have no doubts in my mind that

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i witnessed a ufo that night i wouldn't

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know

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how else to explain it

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ryan ron zlotnik here a loyal patreon

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member and long time follower of your

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work

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and i'm always inspired by the standout

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investigative work that you do

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as a strong voice in our community for

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the rest of us who have not had the

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opportunity to become a prominent figure

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in the ufo uap

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community so thank you very much for the

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role that you play on all of our behalfs

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so i appreciate this honor and privilege

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to lend my voice for once to tell of my

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encounters and share with you

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and the rest of our clan as an

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introduction i'm originally from a

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little town called windsor ontario

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canada

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which is basically like a suburb of

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detroit michigan usa

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i grew up in this town until i moved to

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michigan in my 40s

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no nothing really big comes out of

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windsor and thus for making it a little

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difficult to find

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a lot of ufo reports from there however

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as you well know

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ufos don't really know political

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boundaries nor do they care about

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political boundaries

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my first encounter was when i was

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extremely young so this first account is

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less detailed than

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my second account will be however it was

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no less

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real to me and i do have some memories

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of it

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so windsor being that small town i

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mentioned is

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overshadowed by detroit's international

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airport so we have a lot less air

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traffic

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on our local city's own airport that

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being said

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one evening when the sun was nearly down

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i must have been

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roughly i don't know five or six years

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old a long time ago

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and i recall a bit of unrest around the

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neighborhood when a lot of people are on

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the street

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looking towards our local airport you

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could kind of see the runway in that

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from there

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and i recall that there was an elongated

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oval

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yellowish metallic object that seemed to

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be kind of hovering over the runway

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around you know higher than the air

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traffic controller tower but not too

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much higher

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um probably about the size of a

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couple of 747 jets end-to-end

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so it's definitely something that uh

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shouldn't be there it doesn't belong

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uh at this point in my life you know

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there was no internet

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or move on or any easy way to report it

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and a lot of the neighbors were pointing

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and talking about it

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uh with some fear and worry um and of

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course there was no

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quick snap smartphones able to take

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pictures

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so we were at a loss for any way of

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really recording this very well

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but uh you know it was just about people

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calling like local news or someone at

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the airport trying to get information

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uh they said all they said was uh we're

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looking into it

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but you could see this thing was

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hovering in a way it was kind of

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preventing planes from like landing or

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taking off

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on that um my parents were were there as

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well so

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my father had you know ushered me into

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the house before i could really see too

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much other than

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what i had saw and it seemed to have

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been hovering there for

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like several minutes probably 10 or 20

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minutes

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i never really found out the outcome of

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that because like i said my parents kind

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of ushered me into the house

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and then they went back in we haven't

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really discussed it ever since then

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um but my parents have always been open

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believers

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and have always been into like sci-fi

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and that because i think

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that definitely sparked something in

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them as well but like i said we don't

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really talk about it

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my second incident is a lot more clear

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and personal to me

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and i fully recount it also i gotta say

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that after listening

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to uh years of your podcasts and various

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witness encounters and documented

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stories and videos and there's handfuls

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of common types of themes of accounts

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but i haven't come across one with the

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same matched unique trade

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and i've always searched to see if

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somebody had seen something similar

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so yeah i find this one particularly

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interesting because

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of that so when i was about 13 years old

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we were living in a different house from

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my earlier account behind my house was a

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really large field

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and it was underdeveloped even though we

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were in the city

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on the other side of the field kind of

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kitty corner was a 7-11 store

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and in that day and age it wasn't

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uncommon for parents to send their kids

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to buy them cigarettes

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yeah i feel old i know so my father

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would regularly send

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him send me on runs to grab him

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cigarettes and since you know obviously

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had not

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moved previously and then suddenly it

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started moving

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and drifting across the sky in a slow

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rhythmic fashion

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sort of how you would see like a modern

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day satellite in orbit

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that's kind of how it looked so after a

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few seconds of that constant motion it

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sped up a bit

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and then after it seemed to traverse

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about a quarter of the sky

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and then it would stop suddenly again it

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was now hovering motionless in place

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and i completely stopped walking as my

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gaze was frozen on this

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little star dot i noticed uh

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there was no noticeable sounds or

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anything like that

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you know what kind of common theme

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i didn't feel anything strange it was

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just it just seemed like a star that

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wasn't moving then it was moving and

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then it wasn't moving again

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which is very peculiar so then staring

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at it after about

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oh 10 15 seconds of nothing happening

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i'm still locked in on it but then i saw

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the strangest thing

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i saw what appeared to be a beam of

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faint white light

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slowly kind of growing out of the star

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looking while the star looking dot and

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that light kind of reminded me of how

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like a lightsaber

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turns on so it just kind of grew you

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know

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coming out of that dot and when it was

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about i'll say

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an inch long from my perspective on the

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ground

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against the length of the sky the entire

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beam then started to spin

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around the central dot and as it spun

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the colors oscillated through

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all the various colors of the rainbow

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but like in no particular order of color

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it seemed to be just kind of random as

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it spun around

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and around and around so it it spun

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around this dot

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about oh a dozen-ish times or so

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and then it abruptly stopped again and

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then slowly retracted back into the

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center

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of the dot like somebody turned off the

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lightsaber

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so at this point i'm just completely in

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shock and awe

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and frozen in place you know about

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five ten more seconds pass with nothing

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happening

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and that same familiar ending to most

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sightings happened

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and that dot just shot off across the

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sky at like warp 20 and it was gone that

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was the end of it

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i was completely frozen in place for

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like a couple of minutes after that just

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scanning the sky

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and feeling a little bit shaken with a

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mix of uh feelings of both fear and

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amazement

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then i finally came to my senses once my

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head came back to ground level

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and with the cigarette money in my hands

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still i just

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turned around and bee-lined it back home

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came crashing through the door and threw

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the money at my father as i ran past him

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screaming

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get your own damn cigarettes ran into my

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room and slammed the door

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my father was obviously pretty taken by

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surprise by that

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you know a little wtf moment that was

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definitely not my normal behavior

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especially for a 13 year old

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so you can imagine he wanted to know

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what the hell was going on and i told

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him

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he kind of listened and didn't make too

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much

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out of it but i know in his heart he he

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knows it was something

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looking back um you know it's it seems

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funny now but at the time i was

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pretty shaken by it and it definitely

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solidified my curiosity and interest

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for a very long time until i find those

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answers

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but needless to say i didn't go get

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cigarettes for him for a long time after

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that night

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based on my life's experiences and the

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curiosities that were sparked inside me

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by everything i've

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seen and experienced and read up on

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my feelings are pretty solid in the

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matter

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very similar to your own from listening

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to your account and

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knowing your own views ryan from many

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podcasts that you've shared

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you know as as we all well know there

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are you know

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billions and billions of stars out there

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and it's mathematically

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impossible that we're the only ones you

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know i want to keep religion out of this

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but you know if religion suggests that

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you know the

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god created the universe the heavens and

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the earth and

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that it should be all there to kind of

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service us but

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i got to admit i'm i'm not a strong

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believer in that philosophy i'm very

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much into

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astrophysics and understanding the

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metaphysical nature of the universe and

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the cosmos

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and whether or not i feel that

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we're being visited by aliens in

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spacecrafts

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versus our ufos or uaps as they're

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called now

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simply hire technology from

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foreign adversaries which i genuinely

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believe is not the case

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that any current earth-based adversary

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would have that kind of level of

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technology

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far ahead of us but you know this is

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overlapping that uh

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all the things that have happened the

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last month or so about the uap task

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force

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report which we won't go into

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could it be you know inter-dimensional

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could it be time travelers you know us

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visiting ourselves

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from the future looking back anything is

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possible

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i'm not going to sit there and put that

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hat on and say yep

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ufos are aliens but i'm certainly not

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going to discount it either

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is there a current earth-based

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technology

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concept that's proven that shows faster

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than light

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travel which would be required to

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traverse the distances even to our

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closest neighbor star

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like four light years away um

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not currently there's certainly

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philosophical

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concepts astrophysical ideas and

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constructs

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but i do believe that considering the

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universe is created

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and expanded out that there could

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definitely be

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civilizations that were developed you

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know millennials ahead of us

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um that may have had a heck of a lot

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longer to develop technology

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that could possibly have allowed them to

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unlock a way

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to um travel this far

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but on the other hand if not then it's

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also feasibly impossible to suggest that

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people from another world could have

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reached us

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in their lifetimes unless it was you

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know drone automated

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uh probes like we've got the voyager

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probe sent out you know a millennia ago

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by the time it reached us

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with a civilization that's long gone

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regardless

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those are my feelings on the topic and

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that's where i stand on everything

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thanks for giving me this opportunity

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and uh

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thank you very much ryan keep fighting

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the good fight on

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all of our behalfs

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[Music]

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hey ryan i appreciate the opportunity to

435
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kind of tell what i saw man

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um in 2018 bc before covet

437
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i was out with my family on halloween

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night

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we've got a you know a fairly good sized

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neighborhood there's a lot of families a

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lot of kids

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there's probably a hundred people

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walking around

444
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you know in the neighborhood and

445
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as we're approaching one of the houses

446
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my son's running to the front door to go

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get some candy and all that good stuff

448
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and i noticed you know two gentlemen

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standing off to the side and they're

450
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looking up in the sky kind of looking

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around a tree

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looking over the roof of the house like

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they're just looking at something

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and i can hear one of them say you know

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oh it's you know look at that

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so super curious want to know what's

457
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happening i'll walk up

458
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you know what are you seeing the guy

459
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says man

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you know there's i think there's a ufo

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in the sky

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and i'm like where immediately

463
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and he kind of points to the western sky

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and he says you know

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if you can look straight ahead you see

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that bright bright star

467
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and i look up i see the star he goes

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look to the left of it

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so i look to the left of the star and

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there's a

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white glowing object in the sky

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hovering and then

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like right after that it just starts to

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move through the sky

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from this west to north

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and it didn't make a sound

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it solid white um

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kind of stopped and then started back up

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moving

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from like a dead stop to start

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um we watched it for

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a minute maybe a full minute um

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it was like it was unlike anything i've

484
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ever seen

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i we live in a military town in florida

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we see planes we see helicopters

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um you know i've seen the starlink

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satellites i've seen the iss

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it wasn't any of these things

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um the most amazing part of it is

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when it was all over and as it was

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sinking in

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i realized that i didn't reach for my

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phone i

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i i couldn't even think that fast enough

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and so i get that now i get

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why we don't see these pictures of

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things

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because as soon as you see it you're so

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focused on trying to

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figure out what it is process it you

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don't even think about capturing it and

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so that was the biggest takeaway i think

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for me

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as amazing as it was to see the object

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and

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[Music]

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as cool as it was to see it the thing

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that stuck with me is the fact that i

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didn't i couldn't get it documented

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because my brain

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just did not work that way um so i get

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that now and

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that really helped me because you know

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now when i hear things and i hear

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criticism and i hear

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skeptics and you know the question is

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well why don't we see pictures and

519
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videos well that's why folks

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it's just not it doesn't work like that

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you know it just does not work like that

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um that's it man

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it was one of the coolest things i've

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ever seen i

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i truly hope i get to see another one

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and uh

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that's it man i appreciate the time and

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uh thanks for everything you do

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hi my name is randy i'm 45 years old i

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live in the san francisco bay area but

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the event i'm going to tell you about

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took place

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almost 26 years ago when i still lived

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in my hometown of palm springs

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california

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i first recounted this event to ryan

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back in 2018

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but i figured it was finally time to get

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it on the record

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so for some setup here it was halloween

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night 1995.

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it was technically the early morning of

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november 1st

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i driven to la for a concert on

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halloween with three of my friends

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and we were headed home it was close to

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3am

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and we were about 20 miles outside of

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palm springs heading east

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on interstate 10 we were in cabazon

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that's the location of the

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world famous life-size dinosaurs that

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you'll see now and again on

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movies and on tv that was the point when

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i first noticed

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the light in the sky ahead of us we were

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still miles away from it but

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you could see this light it was directly

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ahead of us it was a bit below the top

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of the windshield so it was in my line

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of sight so what first caught my

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attention about this light

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was the brightness it was directly ahead

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of us it looked like stadium lights

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or a large airliner coming into land

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and now there's no stadium in that part

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of the desert outside of palm springs

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there wasn't at that time and there

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isn't now

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there were no large light poles with

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lights on top of them

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this tall there was also no major

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airport palm springs airport

574
00:20:36,230 --> 00:20:35,520
that was to the southeast of where this

575
00:20:39,510 --> 00:20:36,240
was

576
00:20:42,149 --> 00:20:39,520
strip

577
00:20:43,750 --> 00:20:42,159
that was due west of this location but

578
00:20:44,870 --> 00:20:43,760
an airplane of this size at least from

579
00:20:46,789 --> 00:20:44,880
what i could tell

580
00:20:48,470 --> 00:20:46,799
would not be able to land at this

581
00:20:50,950 --> 00:20:48,480
airfield so basically

582
00:20:52,710 --> 00:20:50,960
there's this large light in the sky it

583
00:20:54,549 --> 00:20:52,720
wasn't just the brightness of this light

584
00:20:56,390 --> 00:20:54,559
it was the quality of the light and the

585
00:20:59,350 --> 00:20:56,400
fact that it was changing

586
00:21:01,270 --> 00:20:59,360
that really held my interest now when i

587
00:21:04,549 --> 00:21:01,280
say the quality of the light

588
00:21:07,270 --> 00:21:04,559
it was very bright but it was also

589
00:21:07,750 --> 00:21:07,280
cold looking it was this cold bluish

590
00:21:09,590 --> 00:21:07,760
white

591
00:21:11,430 --> 00:21:09,600
and in addition to this it was cycling

592
00:21:14,230 --> 00:21:11,440
between what i

593
00:21:15,430 --> 00:21:14,240
say are low beams and high beams so

594
00:21:18,870 --> 00:21:15,440
basically dimming

595
00:21:22,549 --> 00:21:18,880
and intensifying at a consistent pace

596
00:21:23,270 --> 00:21:22,559
dim bright dim bright it would stay dim

597
00:21:26,950 --> 00:21:23,280
for maybe

598
00:21:28,549 --> 00:21:26,960
another five seconds

599
00:21:31,270 --> 00:21:28,559
and so on when the light was at its

600
00:21:34,789 --> 00:21:31,280
brightest it almost looked like three

601
00:21:37,669 --> 00:21:34,799
horizontal diamonds in the sky they bled

602
00:21:38,149 --> 00:21:37,679
out horizontally almost like lens flare

603
00:21:40,470 --> 00:21:38,159
in

604
00:21:41,669 --> 00:21:40,480
the jj abrams star trek movies i didn't

605
00:21:43,830 --> 00:21:41,679
wear glasses at the time

606
00:21:45,590 --> 00:21:43,840
but i could still see this very

607
00:21:46,950 --> 00:21:45,600
intensely bright light

608
00:21:48,630 --> 00:21:46,960
the other thing that caught my attention

609
00:21:50,230 --> 00:21:48,640
was the fact that this light didn't seem

610
00:21:53,430 --> 00:21:50,240
to be moving towards us

611
00:21:55,270 --> 00:21:53,440
or away from us or moving at all in fact

612
00:21:56,470 --> 00:21:55,280
we were moving towards it so we were

613
00:21:58,070 --> 00:21:56,480
getting closer but it was just staying

614
00:22:01,350 --> 00:21:58,080
in the same place

615
00:22:02,470 --> 00:22:01,360
so after taking this in for 30 seconds

616
00:22:04,870 --> 00:22:02,480
or a minute or so

617
00:22:06,230 --> 00:22:04,880
i pointed it out to my best friend paul

618
00:22:07,110 --> 00:22:06,240
who was in the passenger seat and was

619
00:22:09,190 --> 00:22:07,120
awake my

620
00:22:10,710 --> 00:22:09,200
other two friends were in the back seat

621
00:22:13,270 --> 00:22:10,720
passed out again it was

622
00:22:13,830 --> 00:22:13,280
3am and we just been uh to a concert

623
00:22:15,909 --> 00:22:13,840
that night

624
00:22:17,590 --> 00:22:15,919
so talking with paul he and i thought

625
00:22:19,590 --> 00:22:17,600
for a moment that this could be

626
00:22:21,350 --> 00:22:19,600
maybe the light on the summit station of

627
00:22:23,350 --> 00:22:21,360
the palm springs aerial tramway

628
00:22:25,190 --> 00:22:23,360
which is at the top of mount san jacinto

629
00:22:26,870 --> 00:22:25,200
but that's not actually visible from the

630
00:22:28,470 --> 00:22:26,880
eastern side of the mountain range which

631
00:22:30,310 --> 00:22:28,480
is where we were

632
00:22:31,510 --> 00:22:30,320
so we kept our eye on this thing we

633
00:22:32,470 --> 00:22:31,520
weren't really talking about it that

634
00:22:34,310 --> 00:22:32,480
much just sort of

635
00:22:36,149 --> 00:22:34,320
let's keep an eye on this thing we kept

636
00:22:37,590 --> 00:22:36,159
driving as normal we were maybe driving

637
00:22:39,270 --> 00:22:37,600
a little bit under the speed limit

638
00:22:41,350 --> 00:22:39,280
because we were just focusing on this

639
00:22:42,789 --> 00:22:41,360
strange motionless light in the sky

640
00:22:44,950 --> 00:22:42,799
ahead of us that we were

641
00:22:47,190 --> 00:22:44,960
you know fairly quickly approaching so

642
00:22:48,789 --> 00:22:47,200
as we got closer and closer

643
00:22:50,710 --> 00:22:48,799
maybe just a couple of minutes away from

644
00:22:52,470 --> 00:22:50,720
the light which was getting larger

645
00:22:54,149 --> 00:22:52,480
because it was staying in the same place

646
00:22:56,070 --> 00:22:54,159
but we were getting closer to it

647
00:22:57,590 --> 00:22:56,080
we slowed even more because we needed to

648
00:23:00,870 --> 00:22:57,600
take the turn off for highway

649
00:23:02,630 --> 00:23:00,880
111 that takes you into palm springs so

650
00:23:04,149 --> 00:23:02,640
at this point we're about 10 miles down

651
00:23:05,990 --> 00:23:04,159
the highway 10 miles east

652
00:23:07,669 --> 00:23:06,000
on the highway from where we first

653
00:23:08,390 --> 00:23:07,679
spotted the light and rapidly

654
00:23:10,950 --> 00:23:08,400
approaching it

655
00:23:12,789 --> 00:23:10,960
at this point myself my friend paul we

656
00:23:14,070 --> 00:23:12,799
were we were both experiencing and

657
00:23:15,830 --> 00:23:14,080
communicating to each other this

658
00:23:19,029 --> 00:23:15,840
legitimate sense of disbelief

659
00:23:20,710 --> 00:23:19,039
and i would say awe and shock but i i'd

660
00:23:21,190 --> 00:23:20,720
have to say you know i didn't feel any

661
00:23:23,830 --> 00:23:21,200
fear

662
00:23:25,110 --> 00:23:23,840
i wasn't anxious i was just completely

663
00:23:27,510 --> 00:23:25,120
wrapped in attention

664
00:23:28,549 --> 00:23:27,520
towards this object whatever it was

665
00:23:32,149 --> 00:23:28,559
because it was

666
00:23:32,710 --> 00:23:32,159
so unusual to see something this bright

667
00:23:35,510 --> 00:23:32,720
with this

668
00:23:36,470 --> 00:23:35,520
quality of light and just sitting there

669
00:23:39,110 --> 00:23:36,480
in the sky

670
00:23:40,950 --> 00:23:39,120
if anything i was beside myself at this

671
00:23:41,830 --> 00:23:40,960
point just trying to kind of process

672
00:23:43,750 --> 00:23:41,840
what i was seeing

673
00:23:46,230 --> 00:23:43,760
so we were looking at something that was

674
00:23:48,390 --> 00:23:46,240
emitting this strange otherworldly light

675
00:23:49,830 --> 00:23:48,400
and not only that but it was stuck just

676
00:23:51,669 --> 00:23:49,840
a couple hundred feet in the air

677
00:23:52,950 --> 00:23:51,679
above a rest stop on the side of the

678
00:23:53,830 --> 00:23:52,960
freeway it's actually called the white

679
00:23:55,350 --> 00:23:53,840
water rest stop

680
00:23:57,110 --> 00:23:55,360
there's one on each side of the freeway

681
00:23:57,909 --> 00:23:57,120
it was on the southern side of the

682
00:24:00,230 --> 00:23:57,919
freeway

683
00:24:01,669 --> 00:24:00,240
and so when i say stuck i mean it's like

684
00:24:04,789 --> 00:24:01,679
whatever this was

685
00:24:07,909 --> 00:24:04,799
was sitting on a shelf in the sky

686
00:24:09,350 --> 00:24:07,919
or on a pole so like i said it could

687
00:24:10,549 --> 00:24:09,360
kind of be described as looking like an

688
00:24:13,430 --> 00:24:10,559
intensely bright

689
00:24:14,630 --> 00:24:13,440
stadium light from like a nfl stadium it

690
00:24:15,830 --> 00:24:14,640
wasn't moving an inch

691
00:24:17,269 --> 00:24:15,840
and that was something you could tell

692
00:24:19,269 --> 00:24:17,279
from the direction of the lights as they

693
00:24:20,870 --> 00:24:19,279
damned and brightened they were they

694
00:24:22,549 --> 00:24:20,880
looked like they were facing in the same

695
00:24:24,149 --> 00:24:22,559
direction the entire time now at this

696
00:24:24,870 --> 00:24:24,159
point i should say that we weren't alone

697
00:24:26,870 --> 00:24:24,880
on the freeway

698
00:24:28,230 --> 00:24:26,880
i recall that we were moving slower than

699
00:24:29,510 --> 00:24:28,240
the rest of the traffic because we were

700
00:24:30,950 --> 00:24:29,520
actually looking at this thing

701
00:24:32,630 --> 00:24:30,960
there were a handful of other cars on

702
00:24:34,390 --> 00:24:32,640
the road it was 3am again

703
00:24:35,750 --> 00:24:34,400
on halloween night but there definitely

704
00:24:37,909 --> 00:24:35,760
was was other traffic

705
00:24:40,070 --> 00:24:37,919
it didn't really seem that anyone else

706
00:24:42,470 --> 00:24:40,080
was slowing down or noticing this light

707
00:24:44,070 --> 00:24:42,480
but someone must have seen what we saw

708
00:24:45,350 --> 00:24:44,080
but if they did they they weren't

709
00:24:47,110 --> 00:24:45,360
reacting to it

710
00:24:49,510 --> 00:24:47,120
so as we approach the turn off to

711
00:24:50,070 --> 00:24:49,520
highway 111 there's a ramp that leads up

712
00:24:52,470 --> 00:24:50,080
and over

713
00:24:54,630 --> 00:24:52,480
a flood basin before heading southeast

714
00:24:56,470 --> 00:24:54,640
and then east out to palm springs

715
00:24:57,750 --> 00:24:56,480
so because of this ramp we were able to

716
00:24:59,990 --> 00:24:57,760
climb about 20 feet

717
00:25:01,110 --> 00:25:00,000
up towards the object and got an

718
00:25:04,230 --> 00:25:01,120
unobstructed view

719
00:25:07,110 --> 00:25:04,240
of it there sitting in the sky and so

720
00:25:07,750 --> 00:25:07,120
it was hovering sitting whatever you

721
00:25:09,909 --> 00:25:07,760
want to say

722
00:25:11,669 --> 00:25:09,919
in the sky above this rest stop location

723
00:25:12,230 --> 00:25:11,679
again about a couple hundred feet up in

724
00:25:14,470 --> 00:25:12,240
the air

725
00:25:16,070 --> 00:25:14,480
i'm looking you know kind of straight up

726
00:25:17,830 --> 00:25:16,080
and at an angle towards it

727
00:25:19,830 --> 00:25:17,840
i'd practically taken my foot off the

728
00:25:21,830 --> 00:25:19,840
gas at this point we were just coasting

729
00:25:23,750 --> 00:25:21,840
at the top of this off ramp looking to

730
00:25:25,350 --> 00:25:23,760
the left at this object

731
00:25:27,029 --> 00:25:25,360
so it's at this point that the object

732
00:25:29,510 --> 00:25:27,039
began to move towards us

733
00:25:31,190 --> 00:25:29,520
it moved at an angle down towards the

734
00:25:33,590 --> 00:25:31,200
southwest towards us

735
00:25:35,190 --> 00:25:33,600
it moved over the highway over our car

736
00:25:37,590 --> 00:25:35,200
we'd rolled down our windows

737
00:25:39,190 --> 00:25:37,600
there was absolutely no sound outside

738
00:25:41,269 --> 00:25:39,200
except maybe a little bit of wind

739
00:25:43,110 --> 00:25:41,279
i craned my head out the driver's side

740
00:25:44,870 --> 00:25:43,120
window and looked up at the object

741
00:25:46,549 --> 00:25:44,880
my friend paul was doing the same on the

742
00:25:47,909 --> 00:25:46,559
passenger side what i saw a couple

743
00:25:51,029 --> 00:25:47,919
hundred feet above us now

744
00:25:53,029 --> 00:25:51,039
were three pale lights of the same cold

745
00:25:55,350 --> 00:25:53,039
quality that it seemed from a distance

746
00:25:56,149 --> 00:25:55,360
but they are arranged in an equilateral

747
00:25:58,149 --> 00:25:56,159
triangle

748
00:25:59,510 --> 00:25:58,159
and they were silently drifting across

749
00:26:00,230 --> 00:25:59,520
the highway above our car that was

750
00:26:01,909 --> 00:26:00,240
coasting

751
00:26:04,230 --> 00:26:01,919
so i could tell that these lights were

752
00:26:05,350 --> 00:26:04,240
at the points of an actual object a

753
00:26:07,590 --> 00:26:05,360
physical object

754
00:26:08,549 --> 00:26:07,600
because i could make out the object's

755
00:26:11,269 --> 00:26:08,559
triangular shape

756
00:26:12,950 --> 00:26:11,279
against the starlet sky it was a crystal

757
00:26:13,909 --> 00:26:12,960
clear night the skies of the desert are

758
00:26:15,830 --> 00:26:13,919
filled with stars

759
00:26:17,510 --> 00:26:15,840
and there was some moonlight i was

760
00:26:19,029 --> 00:26:17,520
mostly able to make out the shape

761
00:26:20,789 --> 00:26:19,039
because the object was covering the

762
00:26:23,430 --> 00:26:20,799
stars as it crept over us

763
00:26:25,510 --> 00:26:23,440
but also because its surface was so much

764
00:26:27,190 --> 00:26:25,520
darker than the night sky around it

765
00:26:29,029 --> 00:26:27,200
it can only describe the quality of the

766
00:26:29,990 --> 00:26:29,039
surface by comparing it to something

767
00:26:31,830 --> 00:26:30,000
like vantablack

768
00:26:33,510 --> 00:26:31,840
which is the darkest black that we've

769
00:26:34,149 --> 00:26:33,520
been able to create it essentially

770
00:26:35,750 --> 00:26:34,159
reflected

771
00:26:38,070 --> 00:26:35,760
no visible light to the point that the

772
00:26:40,230 --> 00:26:38,080
lights on the object weren't revealing

773
00:26:42,630 --> 00:26:40,240
any details of its surface if you've

774
00:26:44,630 --> 00:26:42,640
seen an airplane flying at night

775
00:26:45,750 --> 00:26:44,640
with its landing lights on you know what

776
00:26:47,669 --> 00:26:45,760
it looks like when the light

777
00:26:49,669 --> 00:26:47,679
reflects off the fuselage or flex off

778
00:26:50,549 --> 00:26:49,679
the wings it very clearly illuminates

779
00:26:52,230 --> 00:26:50,559
the aircraft

780
00:26:54,789 --> 00:26:52,240
in this case it didn't and so there were

781
00:26:56,470 --> 00:26:54,799
no visible seams or bolts or markings

782
00:26:58,549 --> 00:26:56,480
things that you should have been able to

783
00:27:00,549 --> 00:26:58,559
see at such a close distance

784
00:27:02,549 --> 00:27:00,559
this thing was just a void in the sky

785
00:27:05,669 --> 00:27:02,559
perhaps guessing here

786
00:27:08,310 --> 00:27:05,679
50 to 80 feet on each side with these

787
00:27:09,590 --> 00:27:08,320
cold blue lights at each corner so the

788
00:27:11,990 --> 00:27:09,600
object passed over us

789
00:27:12,789 --> 00:27:12,000
to the southwest my friend paul lost

790
00:27:15,269 --> 00:27:12,799
sight of it

791
00:27:16,230 --> 00:27:15,279
he told me it looked like it blinked out

792
00:27:17,350 --> 00:27:16,240
it was just gone

793
00:27:18,549 --> 00:27:17,360
it was around this point that our two

794
00:27:19,350 --> 00:27:18,559
friends in the back seat were finally

795
00:27:21,750 --> 00:27:19,360
waking up

796
00:27:23,350 --> 00:27:21,760
due to all the shouting and sound that

797
00:27:25,590 --> 00:27:23,360
my friend paul and i were making

798
00:27:27,190 --> 00:27:25,600
so they hadn't actually seen anything i

799
00:27:28,389 --> 00:27:27,200
kept driving and i dropped my friends

800
00:27:30,310 --> 00:27:28,399
off then headed home

801
00:27:32,549 --> 00:27:30,320
along the way paul and i recounted in

802
00:27:34,070 --> 00:27:32,559
detail what had just taken place to our

803
00:27:35,830 --> 00:27:34,080
friends who'd been sleeping

804
00:27:37,269 --> 00:27:35,840
they were basically both incredulous

805
00:27:39,350 --> 00:27:37,279
about everything they thought maybe it

806
00:27:41,830 --> 00:27:39,360
was a plane or helicopter

807
00:27:43,510 --> 00:27:41,840
despite the fact that it was so early in

808
00:27:45,669 --> 00:27:43,520
the morning the low altitude the

809
00:27:47,590 --> 00:27:45,679
location it just didn't make sense to us

810
00:27:49,430 --> 00:27:47,600
so when i finally got home around 4 am i

811
00:27:51,350 --> 00:27:49,440
woke up my parents to tell them what i'd

812
00:27:53,430 --> 00:27:51,360
seen and they seemed somewhat interested

813
00:27:54,710 --> 00:27:53,440
but not that concerned i chalked up

814
00:27:55,669 --> 00:27:54,720
their lack of excitement to the fact

815
00:27:57,909 --> 00:27:55,679
that their son

816
00:27:59,909 --> 00:27:57,919
had just woken them up at 4 am to tell

817
00:28:01,029 --> 00:27:59,919
them he'd seen a ufo but my dad was into

818
00:28:02,230 --> 00:28:01,039
this subject we used to watch the

819
00:28:04,310 --> 00:28:02,240
x-files together

820
00:28:06,470 --> 00:28:04,320
my mom had seen some strange things from

821
00:28:08,789 --> 00:28:06,480
many a night spent sitting on a patio

822
00:28:10,470 --> 00:28:08,799
out in the desert so i went to bed still

823
00:28:12,149 --> 00:28:10,480
thinking about what we'd seen i remember

824
00:28:13,830 --> 00:28:12,159
my overriding thought at the time was

825
00:28:14,870 --> 00:28:13,840
that if we'd seen a quote-unquote real

826
00:28:17,190 --> 00:28:14,880
ufo

827
00:28:18,710 --> 00:28:17,200
that what else could be real what else

828
00:28:21,029 --> 00:28:18,720
out there that we've been told

829
00:28:22,549 --> 00:28:21,039
didn't exist or couldn't exist could

830
00:28:24,470 --> 00:28:22,559
actually exist and that's a thought

831
00:28:26,630 --> 00:28:24,480
that's been with me ever since

832
00:28:27,590 --> 00:28:26,640
i've been interested in ufos since a

833
00:28:29,510 --> 00:28:27,600
really young age

834
00:28:31,830 --> 00:28:29,520
i've always loved science fiction always

835
00:28:33,830 --> 00:28:31,840
fascinated by tales of ufos from

836
00:28:35,510 --> 00:28:33,840
shows like in search of one of the

837
00:28:36,789 --> 00:28:35,520
defining moments of my childhood was the

838
00:28:38,630 --> 00:28:36,799
release of close encounters with the

839
00:28:38,950 --> 00:28:38,640
third kind which absolutely captivated

840
00:28:40,470 --> 00:28:38,960
me

841
00:28:42,070 --> 00:28:40,480
but to say that this event has stuck

842
00:28:42,789 --> 00:28:42,080
with me would be a massive

843
00:28:44,870 --> 00:28:42,799
understatement

844
00:28:46,870 --> 00:28:44,880
i think about it practically every day

845
00:28:48,470 --> 00:28:46,880
and has driven me to study the subject

846
00:28:50,789 --> 00:28:48,480
although i wouldn't say that it's to a

847
00:28:53,190 --> 00:28:50,799
level of a dedicated researcher yet

848
00:28:54,630 --> 00:28:53,200
nevertheless i'd classify this as a true

849
00:28:55,830 --> 00:28:54,640
life-changing event

850
00:28:57,510 --> 00:28:55,840
my friend paul and i discuss it

851
00:28:58,310 --> 00:28:57,520
regularly and we've traded theories over

852
00:28:59,909 --> 00:28:58,320
the years

853
00:29:01,669 --> 00:28:59,919
neither of us is convinced that it was

854
00:29:03,110 --> 00:29:01,679
truly otherworldly

855
00:29:04,870 --> 00:29:03,120
but we do believe that it wasn't

856
00:29:06,230 --> 00:29:04,880
technology that existed in the civilian

857
00:29:08,389 --> 00:29:06,240
world in 1995

858
00:29:10,549 --> 00:29:08,399
or at any point since there was zero

859
00:29:11,750 --> 00:29:10,559
movement when it sat in the sky for 15

860
00:29:13,590 --> 00:29:11,760
to 20 minutes

861
00:29:15,669 --> 00:29:13,600
as we observed it before passing under

862
00:29:17,669 --> 00:29:15,679
it or it passing over us

863
00:29:19,590 --> 00:29:17,679
it didn't make any sound it didn't have

864
00:29:21,350 --> 00:29:19,600
any down watch like a helicopter

865
00:29:23,350 --> 00:29:21,360
if it had been some sort of lighter than

866
00:29:25,110 --> 00:29:23,360
aircraft or some sort of military

867
00:29:25,750 --> 00:29:25,120
dirigible like we've seen in subsequent

868
00:29:27,830 --> 00:29:25,760
years

869
00:29:29,590 --> 00:29:27,840
it surely would have drifted some but it

870
00:29:31,909 --> 00:29:29,600
was just completely

871
00:29:32,789 --> 00:29:31,919
fixed in the sky we've also talked about

872
00:29:34,789 --> 00:29:32,799
the fact that

873
00:29:35,830 --> 00:29:34,799
if this were some true anti-gravity

874
00:29:37,990 --> 00:29:35,840
technology

875
00:29:39,669 --> 00:29:38,000
that you'd probably need to draw upon a

876
00:29:41,750 --> 00:29:39,679
lot of energy to make it work

877
00:29:42,710 --> 00:29:41,760
so nuclear or maybe something even more

878
00:29:44,549 --> 00:29:42,720
exotic

879
00:29:46,389 --> 00:29:44,559
that could pose a danger to the nearby

880
00:29:48,389 --> 00:29:46,399
city or the motorist below

881
00:29:49,750 --> 00:29:48,399
it's basically civilians that's just

882
00:29:52,070 --> 00:29:49,760
something we're not sure humans are

883
00:29:53,830 --> 00:29:52,080
really capable of given the dangers of

884
00:29:55,909 --> 00:29:53,840
fission reactors and events like

885
00:29:57,669 --> 00:29:55,919
chernobyl so to this day i remain

886
00:29:59,430 --> 00:29:57,679
certain that what we saw was no

887
00:30:00,389 --> 00:29:59,440
traditional aircraft that's ever been in

888
00:30:02,230 --> 00:30:00,399
the public eye

889
00:30:03,510 --> 00:30:02,240
from its flight characteristics to the

890
00:30:05,669 --> 00:30:03,520
quality of its lighting

891
00:30:07,510 --> 00:30:05,679
to the surface material i described i've

892
00:30:08,630 --> 00:30:07,520
spent nearly 26 years since that night

893
00:30:10,310 --> 00:30:08,640
searching the skies

894
00:30:11,990 --> 00:30:10,320
hoping for another chance to see what i

895
00:30:13,510 --> 00:30:12,000
saw again or something like it

896
00:30:15,909 --> 00:30:13,520
i reported my signing to the national

897
00:30:16,789 --> 00:30:15,919
ufo reporting center a few years after

898
00:30:18,549 --> 00:30:16,799
the event

899
00:30:20,789 --> 00:30:18,559
partly to ensure that i didn't forget

900
00:30:21,990 --> 00:30:20,799
any details unfortunately i seem to have

901
00:30:24,070 --> 00:30:22,000
been the only person who

902
00:30:25,830 --> 00:30:24,080
experienced this event and reported it

903
00:30:26,549 --> 00:30:25,840
at least if anyone's had a similar

904
00:30:28,470 --> 00:30:26,559
experience

905
00:30:29,990 --> 00:30:28,480
i encourage you to share your story with

906
00:30:31,269 --> 00:30:30,000
ryan and the world

907
00:30:32,870 --> 00:30:31,279
if you'd like to get in touch with me

908
00:30:33,430 --> 00:30:32,880
because you've had a similar experience

909
00:30:35,190 --> 00:30:33,440
or

910
00:30:36,789 --> 00:30:35,200
maybe you were even there that night and

911
00:30:38,549 --> 00:30:36,799
saw the same thing that i did

912
00:30:40,070 --> 00:30:38,559
i'd love to hear from you and ryan has

913
00:30:41,909 --> 00:30:40,080
my details

914
00:30:43,990 --> 00:30:41,919
thanks so much for the opportunity to

915
00:30:46,470 --> 00:30:44,000
finally share my story with others ryan

916
00:30:47,830 --> 00:30:46,480
and for creating this amazing platform

917
00:30:51,830 --> 00:30:47,840
where others can do the same

918
00:30:55,990 --> 00:30:51,840
keep watching the skies

919
00:30:59,509 --> 00:30:58,310
hey guys ryan spreck here when i'm not

920
00:31:02,549 --> 00:30:59,519
making podcasts

921
00:31:03,590 --> 00:31:02,559
i am listening to them seriously i'm

922
00:31:06,149 --> 00:31:03,600
obsessed

923
00:31:06,870 --> 00:31:06,159
and if there's one person and one show i

924
00:31:09,350 --> 00:31:06,880
turn to

925
00:31:10,070 --> 00:31:09,360
every week to hear stories of the

926
00:31:13,190 --> 00:31:10,080
strange

927
00:31:13,669 --> 00:31:13,200
the weird and the unexplained it's of

928
00:31:17,029 --> 00:31:13,679
course

929
00:31:18,630 --> 00:31:17,039
gotta be jim harold's campfire with over

930
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931
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932
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933
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best tool we have currently in existence

934
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to hear real-life scary stories

935
00:31:33,269 --> 00:31:30,159
from other human beings since the actual

936
00:31:35,509 --> 00:31:33,279
campfire was invented the concept

937
00:31:37,830 --> 00:31:35,519
is pretty simple jim talks to other

938
00:31:38,950 --> 00:31:37,840
regular folks and strange stuff that's

939
00:31:42,630 --> 00:31:38,960
happened to them

940
00:31:46,070 --> 00:31:42,640
and yes that includes ufos and uaps

941
00:31:47,669 --> 00:31:46,080
along with cryptids ghosts and true head

942
00:31:49,669 --> 00:31:47,679
scratching mysteries

943
00:31:51,029 --> 00:31:49,679
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944
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one where a woman almost

945
00:31:55,430 --> 00:31:54,080
ended up being absorbed by a painting in

946
00:31:57,590 --> 00:31:55,440
a mysterious bar

947
00:31:58,870 --> 00:31:57,600
that seemed like something straight out

948
00:32:01,190 --> 00:31:58,880
of the twilight zone

949
00:32:02,149 --> 00:32:01,200
or there's the story of a young man who

950
00:32:05,590 --> 00:32:02,159
encountered a

951
00:32:07,590 --> 00:32:05,600
spider-like creature with baby hands

952
00:32:09,830 --> 00:32:07,600
then there's the story of a woman in

953
00:32:12,630 --> 00:32:09,840
england who encountered what she thought

954
00:32:13,509 --> 00:32:12,640
was a banshee only to suffer a horrible

955
00:32:17,110 --> 00:32:13,519
tragedy

956
00:32:17,750 --> 00:32:17,120
only moments later no not all of the

957
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958
00:32:21,110 --> 00:32:20,640
in jim harold's campfire are horrifying

959
00:32:23,269 --> 00:32:21,120
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960
00:32:25,350 --> 00:32:23,279
are actually pretty heartwarming like a

961
00:32:28,710 --> 00:32:25,360
visit from a past loved one

962
00:32:30,950 --> 00:32:28,720
or a peaceful near-death experience

963
00:32:32,789 --> 00:32:30,960
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964
00:32:35,190 --> 00:32:32,799
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965
00:32:36,389 --> 00:32:35,200
by ordinary people who've had

966
00:32:40,310 --> 00:32:36,399
extraordinary

967
00:32:43,269 --> 00:32:40,320
experiences so pull up a virtual log

968
00:32:44,389 --> 00:32:43,279
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969
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971
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or wherever you listen to somewhere in

972
00:33:03,830 --> 00:33:01,669
okay this is ronnie leblanc from

973
00:33:05,190 --> 00:33:03,840
expedition bigfoot and paranormal caught

974
00:33:07,750 --> 00:33:05,200
on camera

975
00:33:08,310 --> 00:33:07,760
uh some of you may know i've had a lot

976
00:33:11,430 --> 00:33:08,320
of

977
00:33:14,630 --> 00:33:11,440
ufo experiences since i was a kid

978
00:33:16,950 --> 00:33:14,640
and uh my wife has as well

979
00:33:18,149 --> 00:33:16,960
and so last night uh this is the morning

980
00:33:21,669 --> 00:33:18,159
after

981
00:33:25,669 --> 00:33:21,679
last night june 5th 9 45ish

982
00:33:29,110 --> 00:33:25,679
we were in our garage and we were

983
00:33:30,710 --> 00:33:29,120
talking and i'll mention something in a

984
00:33:32,549 --> 00:33:30,720
moment but we

985
00:33:34,710 --> 00:33:32,559
walked out and we're walking to the

986
00:33:36,149 --> 00:33:34,720
house and i looked up above the roof of

987
00:33:40,070 --> 00:33:36,159
the house

988
00:33:43,750 --> 00:33:40,080
and there i saw it was unmistakable

989
00:33:47,750 --> 00:33:43,760
uh two ufos unidentified flying objects

990
00:33:50,870 --> 00:33:47,760
one was red one was green and not like a

991
00:33:53,190 --> 00:33:50,880
flying saucer but almost like an

992
00:33:54,310 --> 00:33:53,200
orb that was kind of shape-shifting and

993
00:33:56,789 --> 00:33:54,320
changing

994
00:33:58,549 --> 00:33:56,799
but these things were chasing each other

995
00:34:01,269 --> 00:33:58,559
in the sky

996
00:34:02,070 --> 00:34:01,279
uh up and down almost like dolphins in

997
00:34:03,990 --> 00:34:02,080
the water

998
00:34:07,509 --> 00:34:04,000
and i just got this thought of like

999
00:34:10,550 --> 00:34:07,519
thunderbirds or almost a biological

1000
00:34:12,950 --> 00:34:10,560
creature more than a craft seeing this

1001
00:34:14,629 --> 00:34:12,960
so my wife is seeing this she's trying

1002
00:34:16,869 --> 00:34:14,639
to get her a phone

1003
00:34:18,829 --> 00:34:16,879
and i didn't want to film this at all i

1004
00:34:21,909 --> 00:34:18,839
was just experiencing this

1005
00:34:23,430 --> 00:34:21,919
um they moved across

1006
00:34:24,869 --> 00:34:23,440
and passed some trees so that we

1007
00:34:26,550 --> 00:34:24,879
couldn't really see them but they were

1008
00:34:29,669 --> 00:34:26,560
low enough

1009
00:34:31,190 --> 00:34:29,679
and made no sound uh

1010
00:34:33,190 --> 00:34:31,200
low enough that you could see them and

1011
00:34:37,510 --> 00:34:33,200
know that this was not a drone

1012
00:34:41,349 --> 00:34:37,520
this was not a plane this was

1013
00:34:42,550 --> 00:34:41,359
straight up ufos so what often happens

1014
00:34:45,909 --> 00:34:42,560
in my experience

1015
00:34:49,190 --> 00:34:45,919
is a couple of things i started feeling

1016
00:34:50,710 --> 00:34:49,200
euphoric like uh just super

1017
00:34:52,950 --> 00:34:50,720
excited watching this because i knew

1018
00:34:55,669 --> 00:34:52,960
this was something extraordinary

1019
00:34:56,550 --> 00:34:55,679
but also when i have these sightings

1020
00:34:59,030 --> 00:34:56,560
typically

1021
00:34:59,750 --> 00:34:59,040
there seems to be almost like this uh

1022
00:35:01,910 --> 00:34:59,760
you know i live

1023
00:35:03,750 --> 00:35:01,920
really close to leominster state forest

1024
00:35:04,630 --> 00:35:03,760
and monsterland which my books are based

1025
00:35:07,030 --> 00:35:04,640
on

1026
00:35:08,710 --> 00:35:07,040
with all this strange activity but when

1027
00:35:11,190 --> 00:35:08,720
we have a ufo sighting like this

1028
00:35:12,310 --> 00:35:11,200
typically there's another one or several

1029
00:35:15,030 --> 00:35:12,320
others that come

1030
00:35:16,790 --> 00:35:15,040
in after this one in the same trajectory

1031
00:35:17,750 --> 00:35:16,800
so i started to talk to my wife like

1032
00:35:20,870 --> 00:35:17,760
let's look

1033
00:35:24,630 --> 00:35:20,880
where this came from it came from um

1034
00:35:27,430 --> 00:35:24,640
east to west in my estimation and uh

1035
00:35:30,390 --> 00:35:27,440
sure enough another one came and this

1036
00:35:33,430 --> 00:35:30,400
one was like this bluish kind of green

1037
00:35:34,069 --> 00:35:33,440
it did the same thing it wasn't like up

1038
00:35:35,589 --> 00:35:34,079
and down

1039
00:35:37,510 --> 00:35:35,599
like kind of changing direction like

1040
00:35:41,349 --> 00:35:37,520
this this last two

1041
00:35:43,030 --> 00:35:41,359
but it moved in the same way silent

1042
00:35:44,790 --> 00:35:43,040
it was spinning and you can hear me at

1043
00:35:46,870 --> 00:35:44,800
the beginning of the video

1044
00:35:48,630 --> 00:35:46,880
that was me talking about that that

1045
00:35:51,510 --> 00:35:48,640
second ufo coming in

1046
00:35:52,550 --> 00:35:51,520
it was spinning and like almost changing

1047
00:35:56,150 --> 00:35:52,560
shape

1048
00:35:57,270 --> 00:35:56,160
uh it was and again it went the same way

1049
00:35:58,870 --> 00:35:57,280
where it went

1050
00:36:01,670 --> 00:35:58,880
beyond some trees and i couldn't get it

1051
00:36:03,750 --> 00:36:01,680
unless i went deep in the backyard

1052
00:36:05,109 --> 00:36:03,760
and you can see we have some different

1053
00:36:07,030 --> 00:36:05,119
lights out

1054
00:36:08,550 --> 00:36:07,040
on the front of the driveway it creates

1055
00:36:10,470 --> 00:36:08,560
some light pollution but you could still

1056
00:36:13,349 --> 00:36:10,480
see this

1057
00:36:14,069 --> 00:36:13,359
so then my wife finally gets her camera

1058
00:36:16,310 --> 00:36:14,079
up

1059
00:36:18,550 --> 00:36:16,320
and we're looking in the path waiting

1060
00:36:20,470 --> 00:36:18,560
for another one to come and i i could

1061
00:36:23,910 --> 00:36:20,480
feel like it was coming

1062
00:36:26,470 --> 00:36:23,920
uh which sounds crazy but anyways

1063
00:36:28,150 --> 00:36:26,480
here it comes and you can see it moving

1064
00:36:30,470 --> 00:36:28,160
and this one moved very

1065
00:36:33,349 --> 00:36:30,480
differently just like the other ones but

1066
00:36:35,270 --> 00:36:33,359
differently than any type of plane

1067
00:36:37,030 --> 00:36:35,280
or anything and you could see planes

1068
00:36:39,910 --> 00:36:37,040
flying by we could see those

1069
00:36:40,310 --> 00:36:39,920
it was very uh distinctive what a plane

1070
00:36:43,030 --> 00:36:40,320
was

1071
00:36:43,750 --> 00:36:43,040
what a drone is i know that stuff so

1072
00:36:47,349 --> 00:36:43,760
seeing this

1073
00:36:49,190 --> 00:36:47,359
and it flew right over our heads

1074
00:36:50,630 --> 00:36:49,200
and the video really doesn't give it any

1075
00:36:55,430 --> 00:36:50,640
justice um

1076
00:36:58,550 --> 00:36:55,440
i i just it was green um

1077
00:37:01,750 --> 00:36:58,560
okay so the crazy thing

1078
00:37:04,550 --> 00:37:01,760
is a minute or so before these

1079
00:37:05,829 --> 00:37:04,560
sightings had occurred as we're sitting

1080
00:37:09,670 --> 00:37:05,839
in our garage

1081
00:37:13,030 --> 00:37:09,680
my wife was touched three

1082
00:37:14,150 --> 00:37:13,040
times on her leg like a ghost like she

1083
00:37:17,430 --> 00:37:14,160
felt like something was

1084
00:37:18,790 --> 00:37:17,440
in the garage with us and i just kind of

1085
00:37:19,990 --> 00:37:18,800
chuckled and laughed and we're sitting

1086
00:37:22,550 --> 00:37:20,000
close to each other

1087
00:37:25,430 --> 00:37:22,560
uh i just kind of laughed about it but

1088
00:37:27,990 --> 00:37:25,440
this happened three times

1089
00:37:29,750 --> 00:37:28,000
and isn't it significant that we saw

1090
00:37:33,270 --> 00:37:29,760
four ufos

1091
00:37:36,069 --> 00:37:33,280
three separate times one after another

1092
00:37:37,510 --> 00:37:36,079
at this same time we were you know blown

1093
00:37:39,430 --> 00:37:37,520
away one of the most amazing things

1094
00:37:40,950 --> 00:37:39,440
if not the most amazing thing i've ever

1095
00:37:42,390 --> 00:37:40,960
seen in my life

1096
00:37:43,590 --> 00:37:42,400
and that video does not give it freaking

1097
00:37:45,190 --> 00:37:43,600
justice but

1098
00:37:46,710 --> 00:37:45,200
[Music]

1099
00:37:49,109 --> 00:37:46,720
after this had occurred and we're

1100
00:37:51,589 --> 00:37:49,119
outside and we're just like blown away

1101
00:37:52,310 --> 00:37:51,599
my head's spinning the energy was off

1102
00:37:53,910 --> 00:37:52,320
the charts

1103
00:37:57,109 --> 00:37:53,920
and what i was feeling it was so

1104
00:38:00,790 --> 00:37:57,119
exciting i wasn't afraid it was exciting

1105
00:38:04,069 --> 00:38:00,800
uh my son who's 10 years old

1106
00:38:07,510 --> 00:38:04,079
was in the house and he said he felt a

1107
00:38:10,550 --> 00:38:07,520
presence behind him as we

1108
00:38:12,150 --> 00:38:10,560
were kind of like talking and stuff he

1109
00:38:15,030 --> 00:38:12,160
could hear us from outside

1110
00:38:15,589 --> 00:38:15,040
as the ufo setting was happening so i

1111
00:38:18,069 --> 00:38:15,599
find that

1112
00:38:20,630 --> 00:38:18,079
extremely significant i also find it

1113
00:38:24,870 --> 00:38:20,640
funny that my wife went grocery shopping

1114
00:38:29,510 --> 00:38:24,880
and picked up a deck of cards

1115
00:38:31,430 --> 00:38:29,520
and as i was grabbing the the the trash

1116
00:38:33,829 --> 00:38:31,440
uh one of these this deck of cards came

1117
00:38:35,910 --> 00:38:33,839
out and it was called stargazer on it

1118
00:38:37,030 --> 00:38:35,920
and it's just kind of funny i always

1119
00:38:39,750 --> 00:38:37,040
look at signs

1120
00:38:41,190 --> 00:38:39,760
and synchronicities and this is one of

1121
00:38:42,310 --> 00:38:41,200
those things and here we are we have the

1122
00:38:44,630 --> 00:38:42,320
ufo

1123
00:38:46,870 --> 00:38:44,640
report that just came out uh the

1124
00:38:48,950 --> 00:38:46,880
government saying

1125
00:38:50,310 --> 00:38:48,960
these are not our technology that's

1126
00:38:52,390 --> 00:38:50,320
confirmed great

1127
00:38:54,470 --> 00:38:52,400
step forward but again they're not going

1128
00:38:56,870 --> 00:38:54,480
to say that these things are alien

1129
00:38:57,510 --> 00:38:56,880
and i can tell you right now what i saw

1130
00:39:00,950 --> 00:38:57,520
uh

1131
00:39:04,390 --> 00:39:00,960
was not human it was not

1132
00:39:07,430 --> 00:39:04,400
a physical uh craft in a way

1133
00:39:10,150 --> 00:39:07,440
like if it was we were seeing

1134
00:39:13,109 --> 00:39:10,160
portions of it like it just seemed to

1135
00:39:16,630 --> 00:39:13,119
shape-shift and change and seem to be

1136
00:39:17,750 --> 00:39:16,640
more biological than than a physical

1137
00:39:22,870 --> 00:39:17,760
craft

1138
00:39:25,430 --> 00:39:22,880
the way it moved was just incr

1139
00:39:27,670 --> 00:39:25,440
incredible there's no way a plane could

1140
00:39:29,349 --> 00:39:27,680
sustain these movements like i said it

1141
00:39:31,109 --> 00:39:29,359
looked like

1142
00:39:33,910 --> 00:39:31,119
and i describe it in the video it moves

1143
00:39:35,750 --> 00:39:33,920
like a bird it seemed to kind of like

1144
00:39:36,950 --> 00:39:35,760
float and flutter and kind of change

1145
00:39:39,990 --> 00:39:36,960
direction and move

1146
00:39:43,030 --> 00:39:40,000
very uh just animalistic

1147
00:39:45,349 --> 00:39:43,040
but i did file a uh mufon

1148
00:39:47,030 --> 00:39:45,359
report last night within 20 minutes of

1149
00:39:48,870 --> 00:39:47,040
this as it was fresh

1150
00:39:51,270 --> 00:39:48,880
but there's these other details that i

1151
00:39:54,870 --> 00:39:51,280
know will get leaved out of the report

1152
00:39:56,069 --> 00:39:54,880
but they lead into the ufo sighting

1153
00:39:59,750 --> 00:39:56,079
having this paranormal

1154
00:40:02,950 --> 00:39:59,760
experience oh and by the way um

1155
00:40:05,109 --> 00:40:02,960
i am getting back into meditating and

1156
00:40:07,510 --> 00:40:05,119
i'm focusing on remote viewing

1157
00:40:08,470 --> 00:40:07,520
so earlier in the day i did have a

1158
00:40:11,109 --> 00:40:08,480
literally

1159
00:40:12,230 --> 00:40:11,119
short five minute meditation session

1160
00:40:14,630 --> 00:40:12,240
trying to bring them

1161
00:40:16,470 --> 00:40:14,640
in and i've done this before a couple

1162
00:40:18,470 --> 00:40:16,480
years ago at cape cod

1163
00:40:20,790 --> 00:40:18,480
and had orange orbs come in but i've

1164
00:40:24,150 --> 00:40:20,800
never had craft like this

1165
00:40:25,349 --> 00:40:24,160
so now i am just super intrigued i did

1166
00:40:28,790 --> 00:40:25,359
not want to go to sleep

1167
00:40:31,430 --> 00:40:28,800
and i'm now i'm like on fire

1168
00:40:32,550 --> 00:40:31,440
but yeah uh there's definitely a

1169
00:40:36,550 --> 00:40:32,560
spiritual

1170
00:40:39,670 --> 00:40:36,560
and a paranormal kind of

1171
00:40:41,510 --> 00:40:39,680
connection to all of this because of

1172
00:40:42,630 --> 00:40:41,520
what happened prior the feeling of a

1173
00:40:46,230 --> 00:40:42,640
presence

1174
00:40:49,270 --> 00:40:46,240
um not only for my wife but my son

1175
00:40:50,150 --> 00:40:49,280
as uh before this happened and weirdly

1176
00:40:52,870 --> 00:40:50,160
enough

1177
00:40:53,349 --> 00:40:52,880
the third ufo that came through that

1178
00:40:55,190 --> 00:40:53,359
looked

1179
00:40:56,470 --> 00:40:55,200
very similar to the fourth one kind of

1180
00:40:58,470 --> 00:40:56,480
different coloring

1181
00:40:59,750 --> 00:40:58,480
i got the feeling it was the same one

1182
00:41:02,470 --> 00:40:59,760
kind of coming in again

1183
00:41:03,750 --> 00:41:02,480
to show us and my wife had that same

1184
00:41:06,870 --> 00:41:03,760
feeling

1185
00:41:08,630 --> 00:41:06,880
interesting stuff but uh there was a

1186
00:41:10,870 --> 00:41:08,640
report that someone saw something

1187
00:41:12,470 --> 00:41:10,880
a couple weeks ago in the same vicinity

1188
00:41:14,630 --> 00:41:12,480
and this was right

1189
00:41:16,150 --> 00:41:14,640
in front of the big dipper and that's

1190
00:41:17,349 --> 00:41:16,160
where they said they had their sighting

1191
00:41:22,550 --> 00:41:17,359
as well so i find that

1192
00:41:29,030 --> 00:41:26,230
hey ryan uh my name is jazz

1193
00:41:31,030 --> 00:41:29,040
you and i already know each other for

1194
00:41:33,270 --> 00:41:31,040
your latest installment of witness

1195
00:41:34,710 --> 00:41:33,280
testimony

1196
00:41:37,270 --> 00:41:34,720
i decided to talk about something that

1197
00:41:40,150 --> 00:41:37,280
happened very recently

1198
00:41:41,349 --> 00:41:40,160
um i went personally i've always been

1199
00:41:43,510 --> 00:41:41,359
interested

1200
00:41:45,109 --> 00:41:43,520
in the whole uap topic i've been writing

1201
00:41:48,309 --> 00:41:45,119
about it for years

1202
00:41:51,670 --> 00:41:48,319
but it's always been sort of

1203
00:41:54,150 --> 00:41:51,680
hypothetical topic of great interest

1204
00:41:55,670 --> 00:41:54,160
and that started to change last year in

1205
00:41:58,230 --> 00:41:55,680
november of last year

1206
00:41:59,670 --> 00:41:58,240
uh my wife and i had two sightings that

1207
00:42:03,270 --> 00:41:59,680
were not

1208
00:42:06,470 --> 00:42:03,280
really very conclusive it happened

1209
00:42:08,470 --> 00:42:06,480
in a period of one week

1210
00:42:10,950 --> 00:42:08,480
we saw a couple of things and filmed

1211
00:42:13,030 --> 00:42:10,960
them and put them up on youtube

1212
00:42:14,710 --> 00:42:13,040
not really conclusive one of them was

1213
00:42:17,829 --> 00:42:14,720
sort of a

1214
00:42:20,230 --> 00:42:17,839
orb of different changing colors

1215
00:42:21,589 --> 00:42:20,240
happened over a ridge to the uh east of

1216
00:42:24,150 --> 00:42:21,599
our house

1217
00:42:25,430 --> 00:42:24,160
uh the second one my wife filmed that

1218
00:42:28,630 --> 00:42:25,440
was mortgage day it looked

1219
00:42:31,589 --> 00:42:28,640
kind of like a really big triangle

1220
00:42:33,030 --> 00:42:31,599
uh in the dark with some weird lights on

1221
00:42:36,470 --> 00:42:33,040
it but again

1222
00:42:40,309 --> 00:42:36,480
nothing too conclusive that really

1223
00:42:43,349 --> 00:42:40,319
changed this year i had

1224
00:42:47,750 --> 00:42:43,359
two sightings personally

1225
00:42:52,390 --> 00:42:47,760
that really shook up my entire view

1226
00:42:55,109 --> 00:42:52,400
of the whole subject uh in june of 2021

1227
00:42:57,510 --> 00:42:55,119
um third week of june i was out on the

1228
00:43:00,870 --> 00:42:57,520
back deck of my house middle of the day

1229
00:43:04,550 --> 00:43:00,880
beautiful day blue sky a few

1230
00:43:07,589 --> 00:43:04,560
fluffy clouds and i was watching

1231
00:43:08,870 --> 00:43:07,599
two planes from a local airport going

1232
00:43:10,710 --> 00:43:08,880
overhead which happens

1233
00:43:13,750 --> 00:43:10,720
every day because we're not too far from

1234
00:43:18,230 --> 00:43:13,760
a regional airport

1235
00:43:22,230 --> 00:43:18,240
going east west but underneath them

1236
00:43:25,349 --> 00:43:22,240
well below them and below cloud level

1237
00:43:30,230 --> 00:43:25,359
i suddenly saw something else

1238
00:43:33,910 --> 00:43:30,240
it was a white oblong shape

1239
00:43:36,309 --> 00:43:33,920
that everybody who follows the subject

1240
00:43:38,710 --> 00:43:36,319
already knows i i immediately well

1241
00:43:41,750 --> 00:43:38,720
within a couple of seconds i thought

1242
00:43:43,349 --> 00:43:41,760
holy cow that's a tic tac because it had

1243
00:43:44,390 --> 00:43:43,359
no wings nothing else it was just

1244
00:43:48,069 --> 00:43:44,400
silently

1245
00:43:50,870 --> 00:43:48,079
gliding along and

1246
00:43:53,670 --> 00:43:50,880
i immediately reached for my pocket to

1247
00:43:56,309 --> 00:43:53,680
grab my phone to get a video

1248
00:43:57,190 --> 00:43:56,319
there upon realizing that my phone which

1249
00:44:01,190 --> 00:43:57,200
had been at like

1250
00:44:03,349 --> 00:44:01,200
15 or something was in my den recharging

1251
00:44:05,109 --> 00:44:03,359
i went crashing through the house

1252
00:44:06,870 --> 00:44:05,119
screaming for my wife to grab her phone

1253
00:44:08,470 --> 00:44:06,880
and run out front

1254
00:44:10,550 --> 00:44:08,480
to catch it on the other side as it went

1255
00:44:12,870 --> 00:44:10,560
by and

1256
00:44:13,990 --> 00:44:12,880
she did later telling me she was worried

1257
00:44:16,550 --> 00:44:14,000
that i

1258
00:44:19,190 --> 00:44:16,560
was she was afraid the house was on fire

1259
00:44:26,069 --> 00:44:23,430
we got out front and she said that she

1260
00:44:27,349 --> 00:44:26,079
momentarily saw us might have seen

1261
00:44:30,710 --> 00:44:27,359
something

1262
00:44:33,750 --> 00:44:30,720
white in the sky but

1263
00:44:35,030 --> 00:44:33,760
didn't catch anything else i got 19

1264
00:44:36,630 --> 00:44:35,040
minutes of

1265
00:44:38,950 --> 00:44:36,640
beautiful footage of a blue sky with

1266
00:44:41,990 --> 00:44:38,960
nothing in it it had disappeared

1267
00:44:43,349 --> 00:44:42,000
but before i crashed the house i mean it

1268
00:44:45,829 --> 00:44:43,359
was there

1269
00:44:46,470 --> 00:44:45,839
it was very clear it was obviously just

1270
00:44:48,390 --> 00:44:46,480
this

1271
00:44:51,589 --> 00:44:48,400
capsule-shaped thing that was going

1272
00:44:53,990 --> 00:44:51,599
across the sky that disappeared

1273
00:44:57,030 --> 00:44:54,000
that had a big impact on us because it

1274
00:44:59,030 --> 00:44:57,040
sort of sent me on this

1275
00:45:01,190 --> 00:44:59,040
negative spiral of being out there all

1276
00:45:01,990 --> 00:45:01,200
the time watching and wanting her to be

1277
00:45:05,270 --> 00:45:02,000
out there

1278
00:45:06,870 --> 00:45:05,280
when she was home you know and nothing

1279
00:45:10,309 --> 00:45:06,880
else happened

1280
00:45:11,349 --> 00:45:10,319
until the past week and at the time of

1281
00:45:14,710 --> 00:45:11,359
this recording

1282
00:45:16,069 --> 00:45:14,720
we're talking about um the beginning of

1283
00:45:19,030 --> 00:45:16,079
august

1284
00:45:19,829 --> 00:45:19,040
of 2021 and i was once again out of my

1285
00:45:23,270 --> 00:45:19,839
backpack

1286
00:45:23,910 --> 00:45:23,280
and the exact same thing showed up in

1287
00:45:27,030 --> 00:45:23,920
the sky

1288
00:45:27,510 --> 00:45:27,040
there were no planes at the time but it

1289
00:45:34,309 --> 00:45:27,520
was

1290
00:45:36,710 --> 00:45:34,319
traveling from west to east uh

1291
00:45:39,270 --> 00:45:36,720
a little ways to the north of my house

1292
00:45:40,870 --> 00:45:39,280
you know pretty much right above us

1293
00:45:42,710 --> 00:45:40,880
and this time i had my phone and i

1294
00:45:45,270 --> 00:45:42,720
pulled it out and i got

1295
00:45:45,990 --> 00:45:45,280
it it took us probably five six seconds

1296
00:45:47,270 --> 00:45:46,000
to register

1297
00:45:50,069 --> 00:45:47,280
and then get the phone out and start

1298
00:45:53,670 --> 00:45:50,079
recording but i did manage to get

1299
00:45:56,710 --> 00:45:53,680
three to four seconds recorded

1300
00:45:58,309 --> 00:45:56,720
that a videographer took for me and got

1301
00:46:02,069 --> 00:45:58,319
the source code

1302
00:46:03,270 --> 00:46:02,079
from my phone and it was once again it

1303
00:46:06,790 --> 00:46:03,280
was this

1304
00:46:09,030 --> 00:46:06,800
object that looked like a tic-tac and

1305
00:46:10,630 --> 00:46:09,040
it had been moving but by the time i got

1306
00:46:11,829 --> 00:46:10,640
the phone out and the videographer

1307
00:46:15,190 --> 00:46:11,839
confirmed this

1308
00:46:18,230 --> 00:46:15,200
it just stopped and it was just hanging

1309
00:46:21,670 --> 00:46:18,240
there in the sky

1310
00:46:23,030 --> 00:46:21,680
and i managed to film it for like i said

1311
00:46:25,510 --> 00:46:23,040
three to four seconds

1312
00:46:27,829 --> 00:46:25,520
and while i still had the phone pointed

1313
00:46:32,390 --> 00:46:27,839
at it and recording it

1314
00:46:35,109 --> 00:46:32,400
it disappeared it didn't fly away

1315
00:46:35,750 --> 00:46:35,119
it looked to me it doesn't really show

1316
00:46:38,309 --> 00:46:35,760
up

1317
00:46:39,990 --> 00:46:38,319
on what there is in the video but

1318
00:46:40,309 --> 00:46:40,000
visually it looked like it had started

1319
00:46:42,470 --> 00:46:40,319
to

1320
00:46:43,589 --> 00:46:42,480
elongate a bit like it became a bit

1321
00:46:47,030 --> 00:46:43,599
longer

1322
00:46:50,470 --> 00:46:47,040
i i don't know that's just my memory

1323
00:46:53,430 --> 00:46:50,480
and then it just in less than a second

1324
00:46:57,030 --> 00:46:53,440
it just faded out it vanished

1325
00:47:00,550 --> 00:46:57,040
so that was twice i saw these objects

1326
00:47:03,829 --> 00:47:00,560
sailing across the sky that

1327
00:47:05,910 --> 00:47:03,839
have no explanation for me

1328
00:47:07,109 --> 00:47:05,920
and prior to this i was always

1329
00:47:08,950 --> 00:47:07,119
interested as i said

1330
00:47:11,270 --> 00:47:08,960
in the topic and it's like people see

1331
00:47:13,270 --> 00:47:11,280
all these wild things and it's

1332
00:47:15,349 --> 00:47:13,280
really crazy and it's fun to talk about

1333
00:47:18,550 --> 00:47:15,359
and

1334
00:47:19,430 --> 00:47:18,560
but it it was a significant moment has

1335
00:47:21,990 --> 00:47:19,440
really changed

1336
00:47:23,589 --> 00:47:22,000
things in our house and in our lives

1337
00:47:27,109 --> 00:47:23,599
because

1338
00:47:31,030 --> 00:47:27,119
it goes from a hypothetical discussion

1339
00:47:33,430 --> 00:47:31,040
to the point where now it's like

1340
00:47:35,270 --> 00:47:33,440
what was that nothing should be able to

1341
00:47:38,790 --> 00:47:35,280
do that

1342
00:47:42,230 --> 00:47:38,800
it it seemed impossible

1343
00:47:43,030 --> 00:47:42,240
and it it really has changed my outlook

1344
00:47:46,069 --> 00:47:43,040
on this

1345
00:47:47,430 --> 00:47:46,079
so since you like

1346
00:47:50,069 --> 00:47:47,440
doing these shows and people sharing

1347
00:47:52,390 --> 00:47:50,079
their experiences this was a

1348
00:47:54,230 --> 00:47:52,400
in a significant way i will say a

1349
00:47:55,510 --> 00:47:54,240
somewhat life-changing experience

1350
00:47:58,150 --> 00:47:55,520
because

1351
00:47:59,910 --> 00:47:58,160
i'm no longer looking at it as well what

1352
00:48:02,230 --> 00:47:59,920
are these people talking about and it's

1353
00:48:06,309 --> 00:48:02,240
like oh i get it

1354
00:48:07,990 --> 00:48:06,319
i say okay and now it's real

1355
00:48:10,630 --> 00:48:08,000
doesn't mean i know what the answers are

1356
00:48:11,750 --> 00:48:10,640
i i don't know what it was where it came

1357
00:48:13,030 --> 00:48:11,760
from

1358
00:48:14,870 --> 00:48:13,040
but that was something that definitely

1359
00:48:17,829 --> 00:48:14,880
shouldn't have been there it shouldn't

1360
00:48:20,790 --> 00:48:17,839
have been doing what it was doing

1361
00:48:22,390 --> 00:48:20,800
and it's really up my eyes in a number

1362
00:48:26,549 --> 00:48:22,400
of ways

1363
00:48:29,750 --> 00:48:28,390
hi ryan thanks for allowing us to share

1364
00:48:31,670 --> 00:48:29,760
our stories with you

1365
00:48:33,349 --> 00:48:31,680
i've personally experienced two separate

1366
00:48:35,510 --> 00:48:33,359
sightings of the same red orb

1367
00:48:37,750 --> 00:48:35,520
in my childhood once when i was very

1368
00:48:39,510 --> 00:48:37,760
young and once again as a teenager

1369
00:48:41,670 --> 00:48:39,520
both instances occurred on the same

1370
00:48:43,349 --> 00:48:41,680
property in rural minnesota

1371
00:48:44,790 --> 00:48:43,359
my first experience was when i was about

1372
00:48:46,230 --> 00:48:44,800
five or six years old

1373
00:48:47,990 --> 00:48:46,240
it was maybe nine or ten o'clock at

1374
00:48:49,910 --> 00:48:48,000
night and my mother and baby sister were

1375
00:48:51,670 --> 00:48:49,920
sleeping in my parents room but i was

1376
00:48:53,430 --> 00:48:51,680
still awake to wake it up for my father

1377
00:48:55,430 --> 00:48:53,440
to come home from work

1378
00:48:56,790 --> 00:48:55,440
it was either late spring or summer and

1379
00:48:58,390 --> 00:48:56,800
i was watching out the window for my

1380
00:49:00,390 --> 00:48:58,400
father's vehicle to come up the county

1381
00:49:01,670 --> 00:49:00,400
road that leads to our driveway

1382
00:49:03,030 --> 00:49:01,680
the lights were off because i didn't

1383
00:49:04,549 --> 00:49:03,040
want to wake up my mother so i was

1384
00:49:06,069 --> 00:49:04,559
standing in a completely dark room

1385
00:49:07,589 --> 00:49:06,079
looking out over a completely dark

1386
00:49:09,829 --> 00:49:07,599
landscape

1387
00:49:12,150 --> 00:49:09,839
i remember not being afraid being

1388
00:49:14,710 --> 00:49:12,160
immediately curious about this large

1389
00:49:16,470 --> 00:49:14,720
red orb that appeared to ascend out of a

1390
00:49:18,549 --> 00:49:16,480
distant field

1391
00:49:20,630 --> 00:49:18,559
this window faces roughly northeast and

1392
00:49:21,910 --> 00:49:20,640
the area is so rural that there are no

1393
00:49:24,710 --> 00:49:21,920
city lights whatsoever

1394
00:49:26,710 --> 00:49:24,720
just farmer's fields and woods we have

1395
00:49:27,510 --> 00:49:26,720
the most beautiful clear skies in rural

1396
00:49:29,190 --> 00:49:27,520
minnesota

1397
00:49:31,030 --> 00:49:29,200
in an immensely gorgeous view of the

1398
00:49:32,309 --> 00:49:31,040
milky way the right night at the right

1399
00:49:34,230 --> 00:49:32,319
time of year

1400
00:49:35,589 --> 00:49:34,240
i usually stayed up as late as i could

1401
00:49:36,950 --> 00:49:35,599
for my father to come home so this

1402
00:49:39,109 --> 00:49:36,960
wasn't a strange thing to wait by the

1403
00:49:40,790 --> 00:49:39,119
window where i could see the road

1404
00:49:42,309 --> 00:49:40,800
but i had never witnessed a red orb

1405
00:49:44,069 --> 00:49:42,319
before

1406
00:49:45,589 --> 00:49:44,079
it didn't have a definitive shape

1407
00:49:47,349 --> 00:49:45,599
besides vaguely round

1408
00:49:49,430 --> 00:49:47,359
but it definitely didn't come up over

1409
00:49:50,390 --> 00:49:49,440
the horizon this red light really did

1410
00:49:52,309 --> 00:49:50,400
seem large

1411
00:49:54,069 --> 00:49:52,319
and bright and ascending out of a

1412
00:49:56,630 --> 00:49:54,079
farmer's field at minimum

1413
00:49:57,990 --> 00:49:56,640
a few miles away it moved relatively

1414
00:50:00,630 --> 00:49:58,000
quickly too and steady

1415
00:50:02,230 --> 00:50:00,640
as it went up into the sky it may have

1416
00:50:03,750 --> 00:50:02,240
only taken a minute or two to completely

1417
00:50:05,030 --> 00:50:03,760
disappear at the steady pace it was

1418
00:50:06,870 --> 00:50:05,040
traveling

1419
00:50:09,349 --> 00:50:06,880
again i wasn't afraid but i do recall

1420
00:50:10,630 --> 00:50:09,359
how vivid the experience was watching

1421
00:50:13,109 --> 00:50:10,640
this large red light

1422
00:50:14,870 --> 00:50:13,119
while standing at the window one

1423
00:50:15,349 --> 00:50:14,880
specific thing about this encounter that

1424
00:50:42,710 --> 00:50:15,359
i

1425
00:50:43,990 --> 00:50:42,720
2000s

1426
00:50:45,829 --> 00:50:44,000
my sister and i didn't want to keep

1427
00:50:47,510 --> 00:50:45,839
sharing a bedroom but my room downstairs

1428
00:50:49,190 --> 00:50:47,520
in the basement wasn't finished yet so i

1429
00:50:49,910 --> 00:50:49,200
slept on the couch the majority of one

1430
00:50:51,589 --> 00:50:49,920
summer

1431
00:50:53,270 --> 00:50:51,599
and i really liked it actually because i

1432
00:50:53,990 --> 00:50:53,280
could look out of a large picture window

1433
00:50:56,309 --> 00:50:54,000
facing east

1434
00:50:57,349 --> 00:50:56,319
while i was resting on the couch again

1435
00:50:59,349 --> 00:50:57,359
no city lights

1436
00:51:00,790 --> 00:50:59,359
just farmers fields and strips of woods

1437
00:51:02,309 --> 00:51:00,800
with one county road to which our

1438
00:51:04,630 --> 00:51:02,319
driveway was attached

1439
00:51:06,230 --> 00:51:04,640
no light absolutely no light whatsoever

1440
00:51:08,230 --> 00:51:06,240
besides starlight

1441
00:51:10,230 --> 00:51:08,240
in this particular night i was almost

1442
00:51:12,870 --> 00:51:10,240
asleep still looking out the window

1443
00:51:15,270 --> 00:51:12,880
though when i saw a large red orb again

1444
00:51:17,589 --> 00:51:15,280
begin to ascend out of a tree line just

1445
00:51:19,670 --> 00:51:17,599
a few miles away from the house

1446
00:51:21,829 --> 00:51:19,680
this time i was really spooked over the

1447
00:51:23,190 --> 00:51:21,839
years since i saw that first red orb my

1448
00:51:24,630 --> 00:51:23,200
father and i would talk about it

1449
00:51:25,829 --> 00:51:24,640
sometimes and wonder what that could

1450
00:51:27,270 --> 00:51:25,839
have been

1451
00:51:28,790 --> 00:51:27,280
the rest of the house was asleep but i

1452
00:51:30,390 --> 00:51:28,800
bolted off the couch and went to wake up

1453
00:51:31,510 --> 00:51:30,400
my father who wasn't thrilled about

1454
00:51:33,270 --> 00:51:31,520
being woken up

1455
00:51:34,870 --> 00:51:33,280
but i knew i sounded panicked enough

1456
00:51:36,390 --> 00:51:34,880
that he did come into the living room to

1457
00:51:37,589 --> 00:51:36,400
take a look out the window

1458
00:51:39,270 --> 00:51:37,599
i remember being worried that he

1459
00:51:41,670 --> 00:51:39,280
wouldn't come fast enough to see the

1460
00:51:43,109 --> 00:51:41,680
light before it disappeared

1461
00:51:44,630 --> 00:51:43,119
in the time it took between when i first

1462
00:51:46,069 --> 00:51:44,640
saw it coming out of the tree lined when

1463
00:51:47,750 --> 00:51:46,079
i got back to the window

1464
00:51:49,990 --> 00:51:47,760
after waking up my father it had

1465
00:51:52,230 --> 00:51:50,000
ascended quite high already

1466
00:51:53,910 --> 00:51:52,240
we watched together for the minute or so

1467
00:51:55,510 --> 00:51:53,920
that i continued to ascend before it

1468
00:51:57,109 --> 00:51:55,520
completely disappeared

1469
00:51:58,790 --> 00:51:57,119
we watched it in silence and it was a

1470
00:52:00,630 --> 00:51:58,800
really special moment in a way to see

1471
00:52:02,230 --> 00:52:00,640
this with my father

1472
00:52:03,910 --> 00:52:02,240
the sighting became kind of a family

1473
00:52:05,510 --> 00:52:03,920
joke though in a good way because his

1474
00:52:07,109 --> 00:52:05,520
reaction after the orb finally

1475
00:52:08,230 --> 00:52:07,119
disappeared in our moment of shared

1476
00:52:11,030 --> 00:52:08,240
silence

1477
00:52:11,910 --> 00:52:11,040
was i don't know what that was go to

1478
00:52:13,589 --> 00:52:11,920
sleep

1479
00:52:15,510 --> 00:52:13,599
so we all laugh about it to this day

1480
00:52:16,950 --> 00:52:15,520
that here i had this kind of shocking

1481
00:52:19,190 --> 00:52:16,960
encounter with the red orb again

1482
00:52:20,630 --> 00:52:19,200
years after my first sighting and my

1483
00:52:22,870 --> 00:52:20,640
father's reaction was

1484
00:52:23,829 --> 00:52:22,880
go to sleep after i don't know what that

1485
00:52:26,069 --> 00:52:23,839
was

1486
00:52:27,670 --> 00:52:26,079
my father knows pretty much everything

1487
00:52:29,910 --> 00:52:27,680
about the property i grew up on

1488
00:52:31,510 --> 00:52:29,920
because he grew up on the same land he

1489
00:52:33,270 --> 00:52:31,520
knows the woods in the fields better

1490
00:52:34,710 --> 00:52:33,280
than anyone else in this area and he

1491
00:52:35,910 --> 00:52:34,720
could probably find his way home in the

1492
00:52:38,790 --> 00:52:35,920
dark from miles away

1493
00:52:40,950 --> 00:52:38,800
he's seen it all and here was a thing he

1494
00:52:42,549 --> 00:52:40,960
didn't know how to explain

1495
00:52:44,549 --> 00:52:42,559
i didn't bother him the way it bothered

1496
00:52:45,510 --> 00:52:44,559
me though he went back to bed and i went

1497
00:52:47,430 --> 00:52:45,520
back to the couch

1498
00:52:48,549 --> 00:52:47,440
and i know i did not sleep the rest of

1499
00:52:50,470 --> 00:52:48,559
the night

1500
00:52:52,790 --> 00:52:50,480
and to the day i moved out and moved

1501
00:52:54,230 --> 00:52:52,800
away i watched for that red orb

1502
00:52:56,549 --> 00:52:54,240
i still check up on the reports from

1503
00:52:57,670 --> 00:52:56,559
that region once in a while and red orbs

1504
00:52:59,990 --> 00:52:57,680
and black triangles

1505
00:53:01,270 --> 00:53:00,000
are apparently pretty common sightings

1506
00:53:03,109 --> 00:53:01,280
out there

1507
00:53:04,870 --> 00:53:03,119
the second encounter felt very different

1508
00:53:06,150 --> 00:53:04,880
from my first even though the red orb

1509
00:53:08,630 --> 00:53:06,160
was practically identical

1510
00:53:09,349 --> 00:53:08,640
in both situations i think i saw the red

1511
00:53:12,150 --> 00:53:09,359
orb with a

1512
00:53:12,710 --> 00:53:12,160
true sense of childlike wonder the first

1513
00:53:14,630 --> 00:53:12,720
time

1514
00:53:16,150 --> 00:53:14,640
that here was this strange thing that it

1515
00:53:16,710 --> 00:53:16,160
never happened before and didn't happen

1516
00:53:19,109 --> 00:53:16,720
again until

1517
00:53:19,910 --> 00:53:19,119
years later the second sighting of the

1518
00:53:21,910 --> 00:53:19,920
red orb

1519
00:53:23,670 --> 00:53:21,920
was frightening i was legitimately

1520
00:53:25,109 --> 00:53:23,680
afraid of it because i think i had spent

1521
00:53:27,589 --> 00:53:25,119
years wondering if it would come back

1522
00:53:28,950 --> 00:53:27,599
and then there it was unexpectedly

1523
00:53:31,109 --> 00:53:28,960
because of living in the country and

1524
00:53:32,950 --> 00:53:31,119
loving stargazing i had read plenty of

1525
00:53:34,549 --> 00:53:32,960
books in the library about stars and

1526
00:53:35,750 --> 00:53:34,559
planets and knew how certain things

1527
00:53:37,510 --> 00:53:35,760
moved in the sky

1528
00:53:39,589 --> 00:53:37,520
if you watch the sky every night you

1529
00:53:40,870 --> 00:53:39,599
know how fast or slow normal things are

1530
00:53:41,990 --> 00:53:40,880
and what to expect throughout the

1531
00:53:44,309 --> 00:53:42,000
seasons

1532
00:53:45,750 --> 00:53:44,319
this was definitely unlike any star

1533
00:53:47,349 --> 00:53:45,760
planet i was used to watching

1534
00:53:49,430 --> 00:53:47,359
and i looked out at that sky nearly

1535
00:53:50,790 --> 00:53:49,440
every night of my childhood

1536
00:53:53,109 --> 00:53:50,800
i don't think it helped that i had been

1537
00:53:55,510 --> 00:53:53,119
re-reading and rereading and re-reading

1538
00:53:57,750 --> 00:53:55,520
the same book about ufos as a kid

1539
00:53:59,109 --> 00:53:57,760
years after my first sighting but well

1540
00:54:00,870 --> 00:53:59,119
before my second

1541
00:54:02,470 --> 00:54:00,880
and my father had asked me what if

1542
00:54:04,870 --> 00:54:02,480
they're not here to do good things

1543
00:54:07,430 --> 00:54:04,880
these things in the ufos people don't

1544
00:54:09,430 --> 00:54:07,440
always have good experiences with them

1545
00:54:11,270 --> 00:54:09,440
and i think that shifted my perspective

1546
00:54:13,109 --> 00:54:11,280
that then influenced my reaction when i

1547
00:54:14,549 --> 00:54:13,119
did finally see that red orb again as a

1548
00:54:16,710 --> 00:54:14,559
teenager

1549
00:54:18,309 --> 00:54:16,720
my grandfather well before i was born

1550
00:54:21,190 --> 00:54:18,319
allegedly saw a strange object

1551
00:54:22,630 --> 00:54:21,200
emerge from a field relatively close by

1552
00:54:24,150 --> 00:54:22,640
he was looking out over the woods after

1553
00:54:24,630 --> 00:54:24,160
coming back from the fields in the early

1554
00:54:26,710 --> 00:54:24,640
evening

1555
00:54:28,309 --> 00:54:26,720
and saw something he couldn't explain

1556
00:54:29,829 --> 00:54:28,319
once my father pointed out the part of

1557
00:54:30,870 --> 00:54:29,839
the property my grandfather thought this

1558
00:54:32,710 --> 00:54:30,880
thing emerged from

1559
00:54:34,309 --> 00:54:32,720
i couldn't walk by it or drive by it

1560
00:54:36,150 --> 00:54:34,319
without thinking about it

1561
00:54:38,069 --> 00:54:36,160
my father himself has shared some

1562
00:54:39,349 --> 00:54:38,079
strange sightings he's had in his life

1563
00:54:40,630 --> 00:54:39,359
on this property

1564
00:54:42,710 --> 00:54:40,640
he said he didn't tell me when i was a

1565
00:54:44,470 --> 00:54:42,720
child because he didn't want to scare me

1566
00:54:45,750 --> 00:54:44,480
they're not my stories to tell but at

1567
00:54:47,349 --> 00:54:45,760
least i'm assured i'm not the only

1568
00:54:48,630 --> 00:54:47,359
member of my family to see things we

1569
00:54:50,069 --> 00:54:48,640
couldn't explain

1570
00:54:51,190 --> 00:54:50,079
thank you for the opportunity to share

1571
00:54:51,990 --> 00:54:51,200
my stories and thank you for the

1572
00:54:55,510 --> 00:54:52,000
wonderful podcast

1573
00:54:59,750 --> 00:54:58,150
my name is abe ali i've told this story

1574
00:55:02,309 --> 00:54:59,760
a few times in my life

1575
00:55:03,589 --> 00:55:02,319
and there this is the the craziest thing

1576
00:55:05,910 --> 00:55:03,599
that's ever happened to me

1577
00:55:07,430 --> 00:55:05,920
so i want to share it with everybody and

1578
00:55:11,109 --> 00:55:07,440
everything else in between

1579
00:55:14,150 --> 00:55:11,119
so back in 1992 i was going to be

1580
00:55:17,190 --> 00:55:14,160
10 years old in december

1581
00:55:20,390 --> 00:55:17,200
so i was 9 years old at the time

1582
00:55:23,510 --> 00:55:20,400
and it was a

1583
00:55:26,470 --> 00:55:23,520
crisp fall evening

1584
00:55:28,309 --> 00:55:26,480
i'm not sure if it was like an august or

1585
00:55:31,349 --> 00:55:28,319
a september night

1586
00:55:32,950 --> 00:55:31,359
but my dad used to like take in me and

1587
00:55:36,470 --> 00:55:32,960
my brother for

1588
00:55:38,630 --> 00:55:36,480
joy rides in the evening

1589
00:55:39,910 --> 00:55:38,640
and when i say the evening i'm talking

1590
00:55:43,990 --> 00:55:39,920
about 9

1591
00:55:46,470 --> 00:55:44,000
30 10 30 p.m

1592
00:55:48,309 --> 00:55:46,480
and he always liked to you know just

1593
00:55:49,510 --> 00:55:48,319
talk to us and

1594
00:55:51,430 --> 00:55:49,520
you know because it was just me and my

1595
00:55:52,950 --> 00:55:51,440
brother and uh

1596
00:55:55,349 --> 00:55:52,960
you know i guess that was a good way of

1597
00:55:58,150 --> 00:55:55,359
kind of spending time with dad

1598
00:56:00,870 --> 00:55:58,160
but this one evening my brother was

1599
00:56:02,470 --> 00:56:00,880
sitting in the front seat with my dad

1600
00:56:05,349 --> 00:56:02,480
and i was sitting in the back seat of

1601
00:56:09,589 --> 00:56:05,359
the car and we took a ride down to cape

1602
00:56:13,510 --> 00:56:09,599
split i'm from the great state of maine

1603
00:56:16,630 --> 00:56:13,520
and cape split is right on the coast

1604
00:56:19,430 --> 00:56:16,640
atlantic ocean of maine and

1605
00:56:22,230 --> 00:56:19,440
this is where we were i grew up in a

1606
00:56:24,230 --> 00:56:22,240
lobster fishing community

1607
00:56:25,829 --> 00:56:24,240
so we were taking a ride and we were

1608
00:56:28,630 --> 00:56:25,839
parked right on

1609
00:56:30,230 --> 00:56:28,640
the shoreline there was a turnout in

1610
00:56:33,589 --> 00:56:30,240
cape split

1611
00:56:37,510 --> 00:56:33,599
so we were sitting there in the car and

1612
00:56:40,230 --> 00:56:37,520
i remember the radio turning static

1613
00:56:40,710 --> 00:56:40,240
and my father was looking out over the

1614
00:56:43,349 --> 00:56:40,720
ocean

1615
00:56:44,309 --> 00:56:43,359
and there were three islands wide open

1616
00:56:47,829 --> 00:56:44,319
ocean

1617
00:56:51,030 --> 00:56:47,839
bright night no clouds

1618
00:56:54,069 --> 00:56:51,040
and my dad

1619
00:56:56,549 --> 00:56:54,079
was telling us to look over to the left

1620
00:56:59,109 --> 00:56:56,559
because there were these two bright

1621
00:56:59,990 --> 00:56:59,119
lights coming up over this center island

1622
00:57:03,109 --> 00:57:00,000
there were three

1623
00:57:05,589 --> 00:57:03,119
islands these two bright lights were

1624
00:57:08,309 --> 00:57:05,599
coming up over the islands

1625
00:57:10,150 --> 00:57:08,319
and the islands were about a mile away

1626
00:57:12,630 --> 00:57:10,160
from us

1627
00:57:13,430 --> 00:57:12,640
and i still have the image in my head my

1628
00:57:16,789 --> 00:57:13,440
father had

1629
00:57:19,829 --> 00:57:16,799
the window rolled down all the way

1630
00:57:21,910 --> 00:57:19,839
there was no sound just

1631
00:57:25,030 --> 00:57:21,920
obviously the waves crashing on to the

1632
00:57:28,630 --> 00:57:25,040
rocks and on the sand beach

1633
00:57:31,589 --> 00:57:28,640
a typical atlantic ocean sound

1634
00:57:32,870 --> 00:57:31,599
and i remember my brother started to go

1635
00:57:35,990 --> 00:57:32,880
crazy

1636
00:57:37,750 --> 00:57:36,000
in the front seat because i don't know

1637
00:57:40,309 --> 00:57:37,760
if he was scared i don't know

1638
00:57:40,870 --> 00:57:40,319
what was going on but he started like

1639
00:57:43,030 --> 00:57:40,880
kicking

1640
00:57:45,349 --> 00:57:43,040
and screaming and punching the window

1641
00:57:48,069 --> 00:57:45,359
and all kinds of stuff

1642
00:57:50,470 --> 00:57:48,079
my dad was telling him calm down calm

1643
00:57:53,270 --> 00:57:50,480
down you know calm down

1644
00:57:55,910 --> 00:57:53,280
relax relax relax calm down bj bj that's

1645
00:58:00,309 --> 00:57:55,920
his name that's my brother's name bj

1646
00:58:03,349 --> 00:58:00,319
bernard jr and the radio was static

1647
00:58:05,030 --> 00:58:03,359
it wasn't static before this but when i

1648
00:58:06,789 --> 00:58:05,040
looked and saw these two bright lights

1649
00:58:10,710 --> 00:58:06,799
hovering over this island

1650
00:58:13,670 --> 00:58:10,720
the radio went static so i was intrigued

1651
00:58:14,630 --> 00:58:13,680
nine years old what what was i looking

1652
00:58:26,230 --> 00:58:14,640
at

1653
00:58:28,710 --> 00:58:26,240
10 to 15 minutes if you know

1654
00:58:29,750 --> 00:58:28,720
as much as i can recall this was back in

1655
00:58:33,829 --> 00:58:29,760
1992

1656
00:58:37,190 --> 00:58:33,839
so uh almost 30 years ago

1657
00:58:39,910 --> 00:58:37,200
and i was looking and

1658
00:58:41,270 --> 00:58:39,920
it was like an amber two amber lights

1659
00:58:43,589 --> 00:58:41,280
and they were bright

1660
00:58:44,390 --> 00:58:43,599
but then they started going up the the

1661
00:58:51,030 --> 00:58:44,400
river

1662
00:58:54,390 --> 00:58:51,040
i guess you could call it and

1663
00:58:57,190 --> 00:58:54,400
so we decided to follow these things

1664
00:58:58,950 --> 00:58:57,200
i remember looking down at the

1665
00:59:02,630 --> 00:58:58,960
speedometer

1666
00:59:04,230 --> 00:59:02,640
and we were going like 75 miles an hour

1667
00:59:06,390 --> 00:59:04,240
and my dad couldn't catch up with these

1668
00:59:08,710 --> 00:59:06,400
things so

1669
00:59:09,750 --> 00:59:08,720
we were going pretty fast and these

1670
00:59:12,710 --> 00:59:09,760
things were moving

1671
00:59:13,910 --> 00:59:12,720
pretty good i remember seeing these

1672
00:59:16,069 --> 00:59:13,920
bright lights

1673
00:59:17,670 --> 00:59:16,079
through the trees when we were on the

1674
00:59:19,589 --> 00:59:17,680
basin road

1675
00:59:20,870 --> 00:59:19,599
i remember looking out and kind of

1676
00:59:23,750 --> 00:59:20,880
seeing

1677
00:59:25,430 --> 00:59:23,760
the lights through the trees every once

1678
00:59:29,109 --> 00:59:25,440
in a while

1679
00:59:30,390 --> 00:59:29,119
and then we came up to the addison

1680
00:59:32,710 --> 00:59:30,400
bridge

1681
00:59:33,670 --> 00:59:32,720
which was about four miles away from

1682
00:59:38,069 --> 00:59:33,680
cape split

1683
00:59:42,470 --> 00:59:38,079
maybe five and we came up to

1684
00:59:45,430 --> 00:59:42,480
the edison bridge and parked there

1685
00:59:46,390 --> 00:59:45,440
i remember my father opened the door and

1686
00:59:49,030 --> 00:59:46,400
we were looking

1687
00:59:50,710 --> 00:59:49,040
to our left because we knew these things

1688
00:59:52,870 --> 00:59:50,720
were coming up the river

1689
00:59:55,589 --> 00:59:52,880
so we were kind of waiting for them to

1690
00:59:58,069 --> 00:59:55,599
see if we could see anything else

1691
01:00:00,069 --> 00:59:58,079
i remember sitting in the back seat just

1692
01:00:02,390 --> 01:00:00,079
looking down at the river

1693
01:00:03,109 --> 01:00:02,400
a couple minutes passed by these lights

1694
01:00:05,990 --> 01:00:03,119
were coming

1695
01:00:07,829 --> 01:00:06,000
at us at this time they're about a half

1696
01:00:11,990 --> 01:00:07,839
a mile away from us

1697
01:00:14,390 --> 01:00:12,000
i have photos and i have documentation

1698
01:00:16,390 --> 01:00:14,400
of this incident which i'll tell you

1699
01:00:19,190 --> 01:00:16,400
about after i tell you my story

1700
01:00:20,789 --> 01:00:19,200
there's another spin to this story that

1701
01:00:21,829 --> 01:00:20,799
you guys are going to be very very

1702
01:00:24,390 --> 01:00:21,839
intrigued about

1703
01:00:26,309 --> 01:00:24,400
and i can't believe it actually what are

1704
01:00:28,390 --> 01:00:26,319
the odds of this

1705
01:00:29,750 --> 01:00:28,400
so let me finish my story first and then

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01:00:32,150 --> 01:00:29,760
i'll get into that

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01:00:34,069 --> 01:00:32,160
here come these two lights coming

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01:00:37,750 --> 01:00:34,079
towards us about a half a mile away

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01:00:39,990 --> 01:00:37,760
they're about 250 feet off of the ground

1710
01:00:40,870 --> 01:00:40,000
so that's not very high they were very

1711
01:00:44,230 --> 01:00:40,880
low

1712
01:00:47,589 --> 01:00:44,240
and there was no sound zero sound

1713
01:00:51,349 --> 01:00:47,599
whatsoever we were looking and

1714
01:00:54,230 --> 01:00:51,359
all the sudden they got within

1715
01:00:55,030 --> 01:00:54,240
i would say maybe an eighth of a mile to

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01:00:58,390 --> 01:00:55,040
us

1717
01:01:01,349 --> 01:00:58,400
and all i remember was boom

1718
01:01:03,030 --> 01:01:01,359
they were gone within a split second and

1719
01:01:05,190 --> 01:01:03,040
i remember seeing

1720
01:01:07,030 --> 01:01:05,200
i'm getting goosebumps right now i'm

1721
01:01:09,750 --> 01:01:07,040
seriously getting chills

1722
01:01:10,309 --> 01:01:09,760
these things disappeared within a second

1723
01:01:14,150 --> 01:01:10,319
they were

1724
01:01:16,390 --> 01:01:14,160
absolutely gone i heard a sonic boom

1725
01:01:17,829 --> 01:01:16,400
they broke the sound barrier both of

1726
01:01:21,349 --> 01:01:17,839
them

1727
01:01:24,870 --> 01:01:21,359
were absolutely gone disappeared

1728
01:01:26,870 --> 01:01:24,880
gone and i remember looking up

1729
01:01:29,829 --> 01:01:26,880
you could see like a streak streak of

1730
01:01:33,829 --> 01:01:29,839
light go up when they disappeared

1731
01:01:36,710 --> 01:01:33,839
up into the stars and i remember looking

1732
01:01:38,950 --> 01:01:36,720
up at the stars and i couldn't tell

1733
01:01:39,829 --> 01:01:38,960
which star was there and which one

1734
01:01:41,829 --> 01:01:39,839
wasn't

1735
01:01:43,109 --> 01:01:41,839
these things were gone in a matter of a

1736
01:01:46,870 --> 01:01:43,119
millisecond

1737
01:01:49,430 --> 01:01:46,880
it was over it was unbelievable

1738
01:01:50,870 --> 01:01:49,440
in my experience i think about it all

1739
01:01:52,230 --> 01:01:50,880
the time

1740
01:01:54,150 --> 01:01:52,240
i don't know if anybody else has

1741
01:01:55,190 --> 01:01:54,160
experienced the same thing that i've

1742
01:01:58,390 --> 01:01:55,200
experienced

1743
01:02:00,549 --> 01:01:58,400
but that's pretty extraordinary

1744
01:02:02,630 --> 01:02:00,559
it's crazy now i'm going to sit here and

1745
01:02:05,750 --> 01:02:02,640
i'm going to ask you something

1746
01:02:10,230 --> 01:02:05,760
were those human were those

1747
01:02:14,069 --> 01:02:10,240
alien was that something our government

1748
01:02:16,470 --> 01:02:14,079
has created i don't know

1749
01:02:17,750 --> 01:02:16,480
all i know is what i saw and what i

1750
01:02:20,470 --> 01:02:17,760
heard

1751
01:02:21,510 --> 01:02:20,480
that's all i can tell you and i was nine

1752
01:02:23,750 --> 01:02:21,520
years old

1753
01:02:25,750 --> 01:02:23,760
and i remember it just like it was

1754
01:02:27,910 --> 01:02:25,760
yesterday

1755
01:02:29,190 --> 01:02:27,920
i remember talking to my dad and my

1756
01:02:33,190 --> 01:02:29,200
brother

1757
01:02:35,990 --> 01:02:33,200
alive

1758
01:02:37,270 --> 01:02:36,000
we talk about it every once in a while

1759
01:02:40,390 --> 01:02:37,280
he remembers it

1760
01:02:44,230 --> 01:02:40,400
very vividly like i do my dad

1761
01:02:46,710 --> 01:02:44,240
since has passed he passed away in 2007

1762
01:02:47,349 --> 01:02:46,720
but when i became an adult i never

1763
01:02:50,710 --> 01:02:47,359
really

1764
01:02:52,870 --> 01:02:50,720
asked him about that night i wish i

1765
01:02:54,950 --> 01:02:52,880
would have

1766
01:02:58,069 --> 01:02:54,960
the other part that i wanted to tell you

1767
01:03:02,950 --> 01:02:58,079
about is that i'm a wedding dj

1768
01:03:07,029 --> 01:03:02,960
and i was doing a wedding back in 2012

1769
01:03:10,390 --> 01:03:07,039
and i just posted a youtube video

1770
01:03:11,270 --> 01:03:10,400
of my experience i since now have

1771
01:03:13,750 --> 01:03:11,280
deleted it

1772
01:03:16,150 --> 01:03:13,760
i kind of wish i didn't but i just

1773
01:03:19,270 --> 01:03:16,160
posted my experience on youtube

1774
01:03:21,990 --> 01:03:19,280
it was uh like a 10 minute video and

1775
01:03:23,270 --> 01:03:22,000
i was going with the flow at this

1776
01:03:25,990 --> 01:03:23,280
wedding reception

1777
01:03:26,710 --> 01:03:26,000
doing all the announcements entertaining

1778
01:03:28,470 --> 01:03:26,720
the people

1779
01:03:30,630 --> 01:03:28,480
with everything that we were supposed to

1780
01:03:33,510 --> 01:03:30,640
be doing and

1781
01:03:35,190 --> 01:03:33,520
i had a gentleman come up to me and what

1782
01:03:37,910 --> 01:03:35,200
are the odds of this

1783
01:03:39,910 --> 01:03:37,920
i had a gentleman come up to me with his

1784
01:03:43,270 --> 01:03:39,920
ipad in his hand

1785
01:03:46,950 --> 01:03:43,280
and look at me and say is this you

1786
01:03:49,910 --> 01:03:46,960
and he had my youtube video on his ipad

1787
01:03:51,190 --> 01:03:49,920
he was sitting at one of the tables with

1788
01:03:54,309 --> 01:03:51,200
his ipad

1789
01:03:57,510 --> 01:03:54,319
showing like eight people at his table

1790
01:04:00,549 --> 01:03:57,520
showing them my video and me

1791
01:04:03,990 --> 01:04:00,559
talking about my experience

1792
01:04:07,190 --> 01:04:04,000
down in addison maine in cape split

1793
01:04:10,150 --> 01:04:07,200
later on after talking with him

1794
01:04:12,309 --> 01:04:10,160
the gentleman had a home down in cape

1795
01:04:15,270 --> 01:04:12,319
split in 1992.

1796
01:04:16,470 --> 01:04:15,280
right next to where my car while our car

1797
01:04:19,430 --> 01:04:16,480
was parked

1798
01:04:20,069 --> 01:04:19,440
the night we saw these lights come up

1799
01:04:23,510 --> 01:04:20,079
over that

1800
01:04:28,150 --> 01:04:23,520
island and he took pictures

1801
01:04:32,549 --> 01:04:28,160
of these lights and he has now

1802
01:04:35,829 --> 01:04:32,559
sent those pictures to me and i'm so

1803
01:04:39,349 --> 01:04:35,839
unbelievably grateful that i could have

1804
01:04:41,910 --> 01:04:39,359
all this stuff and have this proof

1805
01:04:43,190 --> 01:04:41,920
because it's 100 percent true what are

1806
01:04:47,430 --> 01:04:43,200
the odds

1807
01:04:50,710 --> 01:04:47,440
of somebody capturing those pictures

1808
01:04:53,349 --> 01:04:50,720
the same night me my dad and my brother

1809
01:04:56,789 --> 01:04:53,359
were sitting there in a car

1810
01:04:59,109 --> 01:04:56,799
watching these things this gentleman

1811
01:05:00,710 --> 01:04:59,119
talked to me for over three hours on the

1812
01:05:03,510 --> 01:05:00,720
phone one day

1813
01:05:04,470 --> 01:05:03,520
because he couldn't believe that other

1814
01:05:07,029 --> 01:05:04,480
people

1815
01:05:07,750 --> 01:05:07,039
had seen what he had been seeing that

1816
01:05:10,870 --> 01:05:07,760
night

1817
01:05:15,430 --> 01:05:10,880
he sent me the pictures

1818
01:05:17,589 --> 01:05:15,440
and wow i can't explain to you

1819
01:05:18,950 --> 01:05:17,599
how they make me feel they bring me back

1820
01:05:21,910 --> 01:05:18,960
to the night

1821
01:05:23,109 --> 01:05:21,920
we were there ladies and gentlemen that

1822
01:05:27,029 --> 01:05:23,119
is my story

1823
01:05:30,870 --> 01:05:27,039
a ufo sighting in the experience i had

1824
01:05:32,870 --> 01:05:30,880
back in 1992 when i was nine years old

1825
01:05:34,309 --> 01:05:32,880
i'm very grateful very happy to share it

1826
01:05:35,829 --> 01:05:34,319
with you guys

1827
01:05:53,100 --> 01:05:35,839
now i thank you guys for sitting here

1828
01:05:53,110 --> 01:06:03,190
[Music]

1829
01:06:06,390 --> 01:06:05,109
somewhere in the skies is produced by

1830
01:06:08,230 --> 01:06:06,400
third kind productions